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    If peoples get addicted to something, and as long as they are adults, it's their personal responsability, and no one has to be forced to pay for their problems.
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    Okey. Basically libertarianism isn't just 'individuals do this and that'.
    The whole idea is that we are social animals, we create groups and decide more or less consciously to follow specific rule sets in our daily lives (dress in given ways, use of specific sub languages, following group relative etiquette..). The difference with governments is that they set a number of 'de facto' assets and obligations the individuals and groups will be subjected to. So a libertarian 'society' would in fact be constituted truly voluntary and multiple overarching group appartenances each having their own consensus of rules and regulations.

    It is the nature of the beast that while variation is key to success there is also always a socio-economico-cultural selection of 'desired' traits and group memberships (ex: people will tend to prefer being part of the 'cool kids' than the 'losers' in the grand scheme of things even though each group contains its own self esteem boosting features so promote and justify its own membership)

    From this perspective libertarianism if done right could be more adaptive than classic government in dealing with societal problems (in the neutral sense of problems) such as drug use and control. This is because more 'successful' combinations of group memberships will also structurally 'evolve' to exclude social ladder challenging behaviors and attitudes (note that i am not saying that drugs are good or bad, just that the system would evolve toward promoting 'productive' traits rather than 'destructive habits' in high-social status and socio culturally and economically influencial people
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaLuminosity View Post
    This is funny considering that most of the dealers I know of are against drug legalization. The prices would lower so much that it would destroy their business, or something like that.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    My view is that you need to meet actual libertarians in real life, because you have the most bizarre conceptions of what libertarians are and what we believe of anyone I have ever come across.
    Quote Originally Posted by reason View Post
    You what!? I have ... no ... words to ... gah!

    Whatever. You're exactly right. I'm just a small time cocaine dealer and only support drug legalisation because I want to compete with multinational corporations.

    I'm now going to smash my head against a brick wall to take away the pain.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    This is not surprising. You can't seem to grasp the concept that there are lots of people who want drugs legalized who aren't dealers or users.
    I think I must have missed you guys at the last Libertarian Sodomy Cocaine Assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    I think I must have missed you guys at the last Libertarian Sodomy Cocaine Assembly.
    To be fair to Lark, that Assembly sounds GREAT to me.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    I think I must have missed you guys at the last Libertarian Sodomy Cocaine Assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post
    I think I must have missed you guys at the last Libertarian Sodomy Cocaine Assembly.
    Sodomy is in the Republican Assembly down the hall. We just have cocaine here.
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