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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    Uh... that would have all sorts of strange implications.

    Anyway, I always try to imagine what it would be like to have all that fame and power, I can't really understand it at all. But that must play some kind of messed up games with your psyche and what the world is like. I want to sit in a celebrity therapist office for a day (camera/ reality show free of course) and see what they say.
    I guess it's different for everyone. But they say it has partly to do with all those people screaming adulation at you, and then you go offstage and you have the same problems as everyone else, plus a bunch of weird ones related to your celebrity (ie. no real private life), and you realise you're lonely and you wonder who your real friends are or if they're just around because you're successful...etc.

    Apparently performing is a great deal like a drug and I guess people get bored or have a hard time coming down from it. I've never taken drugs, but I love going to concerts and I feel a bit "drugged" (I think) even from that. All the sound and light and excitement. Being up on stage, well, I can only imagine. The comedown must be harsh if you don't manage it properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    I guess it's different for everyone. But they say it has partly to do with all those people screaming adulation at you, and then you go offstage and you have the same problems as everyone else, plus a bunch of weird ones related to your celebrity (ie. no real private life), and you realise you're lonely and you wonder who your real friends are or if they're just around because you're successful...etc.

    Apparently performing is a great deal like a drug and I guess people get bored or have a hard time coming down from it. I've never taken drugs, but I love going to concerts and I feel a bit "drugged" (I think) even from that. All the sound and light and excitement. Being up on stage, well, I can only imagine. The comedown must be harsh if you don't manage it properly.
    Yeah, that and having everything you could ever possibly want (in the physical sense.) It's like the only way you can get more out of the world or more excitement and dopamine rush is to do the most intense mind and mood altering stuff possible. I imagine taking a hike or walking the dog or going to get ice cream is not quite as exciting when you've seen everything.
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    for real...i imagine it takes a lot of strength to give up your person. i mean just hand it over to the world and not feel like you own it anymore. it seems like the drugs are just something they reach for to escape that...to feel alone for awhile....block it all out. it's understandable...fuck fame the whole thing is beyond stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    for real...i imagine it takes a lot of strength to give up your person. i mean just hand it over to the world and not feel like you own it anymore. it seems like the drugs are just something they reach for to escape that...to feel alone for awhile....block it all out. it's understandable...fuck fame the whole thing is beyond stupid.
    I honestly find it unimaginable. It is so far from anything I have ever desired. My only wishes in terms of "fame" are to get a few things published. And not particularly for fame (who reads poetry anyway? ) but more for personal satisfaction. I think fame is such a trap, such a delusion. I guess some people can achieve just the right level, somewhere way below the Whitney Houstons of this world. They have fans and lots of people enjoy their work, but they don't have tabloids following their every move, etc. I guess it's not that simple. For people who have become superstar famous, it's not like there's one moment where they are asked "ok, so you do want massive fame? Or do you want to step back now?" They make a lot of choices and things happen to them that lead them to it, but it's not that clear cut and they don't see how much it could mess up their lives. And I'm sure it is incredibly exciting. It is a drug in itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i hate it so much...just all of it...everyone dying from drugs...letting it change them..take away their power, potential...their everything. why can't they at least make them non addictive...like caffeine free coke...you know?
    Not everyone is dying from drugs.

    Not all of the celebrities are dying, either (well, at least not at this moment). If it seems like more celebrities are dying these days, that's probably because there are lot more celebrities because the threshold to become one has been significantly lowered. (this is not directed at Lady X)
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    Sunday night at my church, our pastor's wife actually sung that song, "I Love the Lord, He Heard My Cry" or whatever the song is called. She did it justice with our choir.

    As far as dear Whitney is concerned--money and fame cannot buy happiness. You just earn stress from it. That's my two cents.
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    i just meant that i hate that all the people who have died from drug use have..
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    I hear this morning that Bobby Brown turned up to the funneral/rememberence service and had to leave because his entourage was too big. I think the guy should probably have just stayed away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Obama and Michael Vick!
    I think it may be Obama and Oprah: http://www.libertarianrepublican.net...rian-hawk.html

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    Known for her extreme libertine views on social matters, Lady Gaga has now come out of the closet as a military hawk.

    From Forbes this morning:

    Lady Gaga, the music industry phenomenon, is surprisingly hawkish in her views on foreign policy. In an exclusive interview, at a café around the corner from her parents’ Upper West Side apartment, she laments what she terms “the pathetic U.S. policy on Iran.”

    “They support terrorist groups, ferment trouble in Iraq, and are building a nuclear bomb. And what do we do? Nothing. Not that we do anything about North Korea either. Why are we so spineless?”
    She goes on to add:

    Influential liberals like Alec Baldwin may want you to think that celebrities are liberals, but I get a big crowd at my monthly [Prussian War General] Carl von Clausewitz reading group.”
    And stunningly she takes a jab at the Queen of Celebrity Liberals:

    Interviewer:“Oprah? But she’s a well-known supporter of President Obama.”

    Gaga's response: “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer,” Gaga replies, “Have you not read Machiavelli?”

    Though, admittedly little if anything is known about her economic views, allowing herself to be interviewed by the economic libertarian publication Forbes sends a good signal.
    But theses three are suspected to be freemasons, so I don't know if they can kill them each others.
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    Someone said she was going to make a guest appearance on The Walking Dead last week, but of course she was a no show. So either they've got crack in the afterlife or that someone was FOS.
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