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    Default Worst case scenario. Nuclear weapons in Iran?

    The article.

    What do you think? It doesn't seem like Iran has any intention of giving up their nuclear program, so what should the world do? Let them develop nuclear weapons, and just pray that they don't use them? Or should we take more drastic measures to attempt to prevent them from reaching that point?

    Also, how do you think the world will react if Iran uses a nuclear weapon against another nation?

    It's five minutes to midnight, how long do we have until the clock strikes twelve?
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    Given the fact that they have proven themselves an threat to many other nations (us included obviously), with full intention on using such weaponry to their full advantage, it would be in our best interest (as well as the interest of other nations at risk) to thwart their ability to possess such weaponry anyway possible, preferably through the most nonviolent and subtle means possible. Yes, killing their nuclear scientists might seems to be an evil action to commit, but when the alternative is to put thousands or millions at risk of death, then a few sacrificed lives is the lesser of two evils. Overall I'm fine with using strategic military maneuvers, assassinations, threats, and other means that are both easy to conceal and take away the fewest amount of lives as possible. Some though would advocate full out nuclear war on Iran, or preemptively using such weaponry. I however, am against this method given the amount of destruction and death that would arise from it. Granted however, if Iran does get nuclear weaponry and initiates attacks with it, then such drastic measures will need to be taken in order to save the greater good of people, and Iran will have to be wiped off the face of the planet. But so long as we keep them from getting their hands on such weapons, we won't have to worry about nuclear warfare or mass genocide. But to just let them build nuclear weapons on their own time? No.

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    It's five minutes to midnight, how long do we have until the clock strikes twelve?
    Well, five minutes (or 12 hours and five minutes).

    At the end of the day forcing iran to stop their development of nukes isn't going to happen. the two outcomes most desirable are a nukeless iran, or an iran that wont use the weapons should they acquire them.

    for the second scenario...just give one to them...have their biggest enemy (whoever that is...) give them what they want (in exchange for whatever the other one wants (read oil))...and all of a sudden iran will have what it wants, but no motive to use it. this puts trust into the fact that the iranian leadership is capable of playing with the big guns.

    for the second scenario...if energy efficiency is what they are after...have the rest of the world urge them to pursue other means of producing energy.

    ask iran if they want a nuclear weapon or energy efficiency. one doesn't necessitate the other...and if iran continue to act as if they do..then the whole world will know what's up. they aren't being too clear of their motives...so that's the first step...actually forcing them into a position...one which you can react to logically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xisnotx View Post
    Well, five minutes (or 12 hours and five minutes).
    It was a rhetorical question which referred to the doomsday clock, though I assume you knew that...

    Quote Originally Posted by xisnotx View Post
    ask iran if they want a nuclear weapon or energy efficiency. one doesn't necessitate the other...and if iran continue to act as if they do..then the whole world will know what's up. they aren't being too clear of their motives...
    I believe that they have claimed that they only plan on using nuclear technology for producing power, however they have thrown out inspectors looking to confirm this in the past which is causing much of the tension I believe. Which raises the question: if they only want to have more options for energy, why are they being so damn secretive about it...?
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    They probably didn't like being thought of as enough of a threat to warrant "inspectors" from outside agencies. They are, after all, a sovereign nation.

    Still, their want for independence isn't as important as, you know, humans not blowing themselves up...I'm just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xisnotx View Post
    They probably didn't like being thought of as enough of a threat to warrant "inspectors" from outside agencies. They are, after all, a sovereign nation.

    Still, their want for independence isn't as important as, you know, humans not blowing themselves up...I'm just saying.
    I won't pretend to understand their motives, all I can talk about is the actions they have taken that I know about. The problem is that no nation can do whatever they want, not even the United States (Dispite what so many seem to claim, we do have international laws we must abide by). So if they don't follow international nuclear regulations, it really doesn't matter. Sovereign nation or not, there are some things the world doesn't want to see countries doing.

    But yeah, I think all out global thermonuclear war is something we should try to avoid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162...in;contentBody

    What do you think? It doesn't seem like Iran has any intention of giving up their nuclear program, so what should the world do? Let them develop nuclear weapons, and just pray that they don't use them? Or should we take more drastic measures to attempt to prevent them from reaching that point?

    Also, how do you think the world will react if Iran uses a nuclear weapon against another nation?

    It's five minutes to midnight, how long do we have until the clock strikes twelve?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalViolet View Post
    The article is no longer present )-:
    Strange, the link still works for me.
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    They are an independent country with the right to govern themselves along with the right to suffer any consequences from the misuse of their actions. Nukes are just the new big bomb fad happening with countries (and more countries have them then let on).

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    Iran will be delt with, it's onlyy a matter of time before we go in to prevent attack, or in response to it. And Seria will be more complex than Libya, there will need to be boots on the ground, not just supplies and air support.
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