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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    Why is that? What makes them different than Pakistan or North Korea, both of whom have nuclear weapons?
    Pakistan is sufficiently sensible that it will not deploy nuclear weapons without serious provocation. As for North Korea, it is currently not posing enough risk to warrant an invasion-an invasion which would be several times more costly, in every sense, than an invasion of Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    I bet they just want to act big and are no thread to anyone
    Just yesterday they committed three co-ordinated acts of terrorism across the world to show they can strike anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    I know you are a troll but you express a rather common opinion so I might as well address it here.

    You know how in the bible it says that the world will be consumed in fire before Jesus comes back? Remember when we had a president who honestly believed that, and he had his finger on the button.

    Religion is a powerful motivator for small fringe groups but for most large actors its not a huge motivator. Christian Allied soldiers had no problems fighting alongside evil uncivilized mudslimes against christian Axis soldiers. There are bigger factors at play here than "hurr durr mudslimes allah ackbar". People who believe in all that apocalyptic shit do exist in the muslim world, just as they do in the Christian world, but they usually dont have the self-awareness required to seize power. Ahmadinejad is crazy, but hes practical. He didnt stumble in to his office following the voice of Allah in his head, hes not going to blow himself the fuck up because scripture said so just like Bush never did.
    We have one of the best connected intelligence services in the world. And on the advice of our intelligence service we have built low reinforced concrete walls around our government buildings to stop car bombers.

    And we are not trying to stop Episcopalian car bombers but Islamic car bombers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    I know you are a troll
    Insults are against the rules and may lead to banning. And calling me a troll after 8,877 posts is a calculated insult and I hope you get banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Insults are against the rules and may lead to banning. And calling me a troll after 8,877 posts is a calculated insult and I hope you get banned.
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    Last edited by Tyrinth; 02-22-2012 at 05:38 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We have one of the best connected intelligence services in the world. And on the advice of our intelligence service we have built low reinforced concrete walls around our government buildings to stop car bombers.

    And we are not trying to stop Episcopalian car bombers but Islamic car bombers.
    Christian doctrine tends to look unfavorably upon suicide. A typical interpretation is that it is sinful

    Islamic doctrine exalts martyrdom. A typical interpretation is praise for martyrs

    Hence, Christian terrorists tend to employ firearms or bombs that do not include the terrorist as a target, while an Islamist terrorist would be apt to employ much larger munitions delivered with great precision, as the individual may control the precise circumstances of the explosion

    Christian terrorists tend to kill relatively small numbers of people in their attacks, while cars driven for the intent of mass destruction can easily carry hundreds or thousands of pounds of explosives detonated in a much more dramatic effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Christian doctrine tends to look unfavorably upon suicide. A typical interpretation is that it is sinful

    Islamic doctrine exalts martyrdom. A typical interpretation is praise for martyrs

    Hence, Christian terrorists tend to employ firearms or bombs that do not include the terrorist as a target, while an Islamist terrorist would be apt to employ much larger munitions delivered with great precision, as the individual may control the precise circumstances of the explosion

    Christian terrorists tend to kill relatively small numbers of people in their attacks, while cars driven for the intent of mass destruction can easily carry hundreds or thousands of pounds of explosives detonated in a much more dramatic effect
    C'mon Beargryllz, jihad is as Islamic as freedom is American.

    And submission is as Islamic as freedom of speech is American.

    And world domination is as Islamic as decolonization is American.

    And anti-semitism is as Islamic as equality under the law is American.

    And a sense of humour is American as fanaticism is Islamic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    C'mon Beargryllz, jihad is as Islamic as freedom is American.

    And submission is as Islamic as freedom of speech is American.

    And world domination is as Islamic as decolonization is American.

    And anti-semitism is as Islamic as equality under the law is American.

    And a sense of humour is American as fanaticism is Islamic.
    The rhetoric is essential

    Surely an American would not practice jihad, but liberation

    Surely we would not submit, because we are free

    Surely we would not dominate, but liberate

    Surely we have moved beyond racial discrimination, and we even have constitutional amendments to prove it. We pride ourselves on equality because of this, and everyone needs something to be proud of

    My sense of humor and my passions will surely be different from other people's, though we may share some similarities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    No. They want Nukes for the security they bring. The Middle East has been completely destabilized, Iran, Iraw and Libya have all been fucked to hell by the US on dubious pretenses. Iran is afraid they are next.
    Yea that was kinda my point, if they can act big convinsingly enough, no one will attack them
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    Quote Originally Posted by mia_infp View Post
    Oh please. Iran doesn't share a border with Israel, the two countries have never had a substantive conflict, and they're not even Arab. They want to nuke Israel because the country is run by suicidal, religious zealots who are looney tunes and are doing their most pious duty and holy mission in following Mohammed's orders to kill all the Jews. Even if there were no state of Israel, they would want to kill all the Jews. Hassan Nasrallah who works closely with the Iranians said, "If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide." This is about their religion.
    Those who believe, and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
    —Qur'an, sura 2 (Al-Baqarah), ayat 62

    People really have no god damn historical perspective on anything do they? I bet you think Jews and Christians have gotten along just hunkey doreey for the past 2000 years too?
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