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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    ...involves the populace in the governance of their district and the nation at large.
    We can't help noticing how few of you vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Your President is your Politcal Leader, your Commander-in-Chief, and your Head of State. This looks to me like the maximisation of power rather than the limitation of power we find in a liberal democracy.
    What should a president/prime minister do, in an ideal government? Should they not be considered a "leader"? Should that individual defer to subordinates for military decisions? Should that individual be labeled head of state, or should he/she not?

    Naturally, the leader of the free world will exercise phenomenal power. In fact, few could contest that the sitting president of the United States exercises anything but phenomenal power. Who else would? A cabinet perhaps? A congress? Even still, surely there would be an influential figure among them with the "most" power. What then would we call him/her? We could make up a new, fancy title. Perhaps we could call that individual "chairman", or "king", or "God-Emperor"

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    We have found that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so we practise the limitation of power through liberal democracy.

    And in our liberal democracy our Prime Minister is not even mentioned in our Constitution, is not elected by the people, and can be easily removed by her Party, by the Parliament or by the Governor General.

    As well our Prime Minister is not our Head of State, nor is she our Commander-in-Chief.

    Nor does she appoint the Secretaries of Departments, like the Department of Defence or the Department of Trade, etc.

    So we limit her power and so limit her temptation for corruption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We have found that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so we practise the limitation of power through liberal democracy.

    And in our liberal democracy our Prime Minister is not even mentioned in our Constitution, is not elected by the people, and can be easily removed by her Party, by the Parliament or by the Governor General.

    As well our Prime Minister is not our Head of State, nor is she our Commander-in-Chief.

    Nor does she appoint the Secretaries of Departments, like the Department of Defence or the Department of Trade, etc.

    So we limit her power and so limit her temptation for corruption.
    What could a prime minister do, in theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    What could a prime minister do, in theory?
    She can do anything that is not forbidden.

    And this is true for all the Subjects of Her Majesty, and it defines our freedom - we can do anything providing it is not against the law.

    On a day to day basis our Prime Minister leads her Party in Parliament. And is accountable to Parliament. She can choose her Ministers from elected Members of Parliament. And she pursues the legislative agenda of her Party. How she does this is up to her, within the limitations of her power.

    At times a Prime Minister, intoxicated by the powers of your President, seeks to behave in a Presidential way, but they are soon brought up short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Please! Rather than a revolution against England it was a civil war instigated by the bourgeoise against lawful authority.

    And the blood of one civil war wasn't enough and so there had to be a second. And looking round the world we see you have been instigating civil wars wherever you go. As I write you are instigating a civil war in Iran. But rather than calling it by its righful name, you call it 'regime change'.

    And your ambassador to Australia, Marshall Green, after instigating a civil war in Vietnam, tried to instigate a civil war here in 1975 by being implicated in the dismissal of our elected Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam, who had the full confidence of Parliament. But civil war being foreign to us, we had an election instead.

    Civil war is as American as apple pie.
    Congratulations on your latest off-topic screed directed at someone who has disagreed with your premise. Another punch on the card and your next one is free!
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    Congratulations on your latest off-topic screed directed at someone who has disagreed with your premise. Another punch on the card and your next one is free!
    Surely I am allowed the odd indiscretion?

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