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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    Fair enough. But the combination of Joker imagery and "socialism" as an idea still doesn't make any sense.
    To a thinker maybe, to a "these things are bad" feeler on emoting overdrive sure. It makes perfect sense. Its better than sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    Penguin = Gingrich
    Joker = Obama
    Santorum = Riddler
    Two Face = Romney
    Ok, thank you.
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    Well Gingrich is grandiose. Doesn't he want an American moonbase ASAP or something to that effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    Well Gingrich is grandiose. Doesn't he want an American moonbase ASAP or something to that effect?
    Nah -- that's just what he tells voters in Florida to convince them he'll direct funding to the Aerospace/Launch industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    Well Gingrich is grandiose. Doesn't he want an American moonbase ASAP or something to that effect?
    He is an idiot for that one ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparrow View Post
    He is an idiot for that one ...
    An American moonbase would be totally awesome, but my vision for an American moonbase and Gingrich's vision are probably quite different.
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    The Riddler looks like Jason Sudeikis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    An American moonbase would be totally awesome, but my vision for an American moonbase and Gingrich's vision are probably quite different.
    Yours being far superior and more thought out, I'm sure...

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    Lark, you've asked the one question that Libertarians are unable to answer honestly without coming off like hard boiled sociopaths. What is at the core of the philosophy that would allow them to forecast the societal and economic impacts of their agenda? The answer lies not in the substance of the core but in the process that they would use to expose it. Effectively what they propose is not to measurably change society for the better or worse, but rather to remove the infrastructure that society uses to measure the likely impacts of that agenda.

    For instance, say you run a business selling half price milk that is past its best before date. The enforcement of the consumer protection pursuant to use by dates is one of the functions of government that would be dispensed with, thereby rendering the entire notion of time sensitive food safety moot. The purchaser of the cheap milk would be acting completely without guidance as to the likelihood of sickness from consuming the milk. They would simply have to take their chances with the cheap milk. If they become sick, they could refrain in future from purchasing milk from that vendor and tell all their friends not to buy milk from, say, "John's Cheap Milk". This act of negative feedback, in a deeply price sensitive place like Libertarian Land, would likely be enough to drive John out of the milk business. This assumes that John is an honest operator who cares about the health of his customers, or that he operates in a town small enough for word to circulate quickly enough to cause harm to the cheap milk market. Let's assume that John is not bound by any such ethical quandaries and simply wants to offload a few shipments of expired milk, cash out and set up a shop that sells hand crafted tinfoil hats to keep the evil government space rays out of peoples brains. What is to stop John from either shutting shop for a day and rebranding as Joe's Discount Milk? Or perhaps running John's and Joe's simultaneously with the same tainted milk supply? There would be nothing to stop him, because the government apparatus that regulates business naming would not exist.

    When I say that there is nothing at the core of Libertarian philosophy, this is not to say that there is nothing there, but rather that the core of Libertarian philosophy is the deliberate dissembling of the structure of society and the replacement of that structure with, well, nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    An American moonbase would be totally awesome, but my vision for an American moonbase and Gingrich's vision are probably quite different.
    It would be awesome, but America is trillions of dollars in debt! We have other things to worry about right now. That's why he's an idiot for bringing that up, wrong time for sure.
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