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    Are there better ways for people to fight world hunger than by making donations to organizations like Oxfam?

    How effective are those organizations? Do they make an impact? Which ones do the best work?

    Do you think world hunger will get better or worse? Some people say poverty is rooted in bad government (corruption, oppression, incompetence), while others say it arises from geographical factors like climate & resource scarcity, etc. What do you think?
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    People are being stupid and bearing more children than they are able to maintain. Compulsory sterilization could work long term, but there are inconvenient moral issues. Maybe a sort of one-child policy.
    My guess is it's gonna get worse before it gets better.
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    I think Oxfam and other such organisations are still valuable. Yes, you don't want to foster dependence but so many of the poverty problems wouldn't be solved even by doing so. Access to clean water, for instance would solve so many problems; how can you eat, live, work when you or your family have chronic health problems stemming from unclean water? Some of what they do is simply putting people or a village in a better position in the long term, such as digging a well or giving a family a goat. Also famines or war are problems which mean that emergency support is still regularly needed.

    If you want to do something about poverty as a whole (and not simply hunger) you could consider supporting a micro-financing organisation. These make for win-win situations. Basically, in developing nations, getting access to a loan to set up a small-business (or develop the one they already have) is borderline impossible for the poor. There are many reasons for this but one of them is simply that there aren't enough banks! We're talking about a few dozen banks for millions of people! Anyway so how it works is you organise a committee of respected people in the village, town, or tribe and they decide who gets the loans. It might only be for a very small amount to set up a fruit stall but for most people that a barely surviving this is well beyond them. Often the loans go to women because women and children make up an overwhelming percentage of the poor and are frankly more reliable and dependable than the men. But also because it allows women whose husbands abandon them (and their kids) to get on their feet or those whose husbands abuse them or their children to leave them and support themselves. Anyway, the money gets paid back and then it can be used again. And apparently 97% of the loans DO get paid back which is a way better rate than you'd find in a bank in a first world nation. The best thing about it is that it's going towards a small loan and not a handout, so you can feel like people are getting long term help; but also it's affording these people the opportunity of the dignity of providing for themselves and their families, which is all they really want. An added bonus, is also that the money that these people earn in the success of their business goes back into the community in the things they buy and in the people the employ as the business grows; so it can improve the standard of living in an entire village through knock-on effects.

    There are a few organisations out there but here's one to read up on:
    FINCA - main page
    FINCA - Success stories

    Here's one success story to show you what I'm talking about:

    Saumu Eneza, FINCA Tanzania

    A Business Helps Build A Community

    Saumu Eneza lives in Dar-es-Salaam, Tanzania, with her husband and four children. Before joining a FINCA Village Banking group, she operated a tiny business selling juice on the street to help support her family. But she had no capital to improve her business, so she contemplated closing it and finding another, better source of income, so the family could afford better food and the school fees for all the children.

    Then one day, Saumu met a FINCA loan officer and learned about FINCA’s financial services and how its small loans could help her transform her business and improve her family’s living standards. She soon joined FINCA’s Mchafukoge Village Banking group and received a first loan of $30, which she used to purchase fruit, sugar and other supplies for the juice business.

    Within three FINCA loan cycles, Saumu’s earning had grown substantially, because she could afford to buy fruit in bulk at better prices and expand the variety of juices she offered for sale, including powdered drinks. Saumu was able to move to a permanent stall in the market, upgrade her juice-making equipment, and hire three neighbors to help her make her juices and sell them to her growing clientele.

    With increasing profits and FINCA loans of $1,000, Saumu purchased her own place of business. Today, she rents part of her premises to other food vendors, which allows her to sell juice to the customers eating in the adjacent food stalls. Her success is contributing to the growth of other businesses in her community—not only her tenants, but also the wholesalers who supply her with fruit and other goods—and three families benefit from the wages she pays to her workers.

    Saumu is very happy that her business has allowed her to buy better and more nutritious food for her family and to pay her children’s school fees so they can continue their education. “I love FINCA,” says Saumu, “because I’ve been able to fulfill and exceed my basic needs. I am proud to own a stable business and to be an employer.”
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    A lack of food is rarely the reason people starve. People usually starve because of political turmoil and poor infrastructure. If you solve those problems, the hunger issue will fix itself.

    People in developed countries need to concern themselves less with what makes them feel good and more with what leads to long-term solutions.
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    If you want to help people who are suffering right now, then donate to organisations like Oxfam. If you want to prevent similar suffering in the future, then there is almost nothing you can do.

    The problem has to do with culture and institutions. These can't be changed easily or quickly, even for people who embrace such change. Americans aren't wealthy because they have lots of stuff; they're wealthy because they live in a society with a particular culture and set of institutions that creates lots of stuff. Nobody knows why this happened in some places and not others, and nobody knows how to recreate it in those other places.
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    Unless we can create ways to better output our crops for the future generations, chances are, we won't have enough to feed everyone in the world. In turn, there will be food shortages considering how we are growing at such a staggering pace.

    I think the organizations do help. At the same time, those type of help is very limited. To put it simply,

    "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

    Giving those people that need food will help for the time being, teaching them to create food that thrives in their environment would be even better.

    Getting the homeless (such as in America) back into a working career (like bringing them to a homeless shelter that helps them) is better than just giving money to the homeless looking for money (to get food for one day.)

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    Return them to their former colonial rulers. Re-colonization = re-civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    A lack of food is rarely the reason people starve. People usually starve because of political turmoil and poor infrastructure. If you solve those problems, the hunger issue will fix itself.

    People in developed countries need to concern themselves less with what makes them feel good and more with what leads to long-term solutions.
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    Help world hunger, joing your local army or militia today.


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    jsut saying, these organisations are for profit.

    If it was in anyones interest, it would be government funded. If it was a legit cause that organizations wanted, they wouldve petitioned it to be government funded. If they really cared about the hungry people, they wouldnt exploit dieing kids to make the housewives of america feelbad to pick from their coin purse. If it was a real concern, maybe the organizations shouldnt be Objective in their christian exploitation. There is no game plan to solve the issues, just "DONATE NOW" signs. They dont want your ideas , just your money, beause it's all your worth. Why make a food factory in africa, theres no profit in that. That would only solve the issue, not make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    Help world hunger, joing your local army or militia today.

    it's already insensitive enough for you to post in here with the name "Munchies", I was hoping for a really interesting post w/ that kind of circumstance. just think of all you could've said.
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