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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I know that a lot of people have can be freaked out by people who're obviously on the poverty line, jim bob the trawler park loon or the urban hoody chav are scary guys for many, even if they're ashamed of it because its not exactly PC.

    Although how do you feel about the rich? I got to say that they actually freak me out just as much, I really do imagine that they sail out into international waters to do shit that would make Dracula of myth and legend cringe and cower (and I dont mean say mass and take communion). I suspect that they are also fixing to steal organs, literally, wreck economies and play games with everyones future like Goldfinger or something. Hell for all I know Ick's theory about seven foot blood drinking lizards is a less scary alternative to what the rich are really like.

    I've got to say that I'd have to fight down the prejudice or manage being perturbed if I was in the company of anyone who I'd guess was the real McCoy in terms of riches.

    So what way do you feel? Or dont you feel anything?
    I feel like just because someone is rich, they should not be penalized for it. They should not have to pay higher taxes. Think about it: If they pay the same percentage others pay, but make $100K+ more, that is already a lot more revenue for the government.

    I do believe deductions and exemptions should weigh in favor of the economically challenged and young however.

    And because our population is starting to really cause us problems now (lack of enough jobs for everyone), there should no longer be tax breaks for families with kids. Nor tax breaks for married families (that makes it feel like singles are being punished, which they are).

    And, no, Lark, the rich don't freak me out. Why would they?
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    I don't feel one way or another towards people based on their income or economic circumstances. I don't think a person's income is indicative of who they are. I also think it's a bit unfair to pick on people who happen to have money just as I think it's unfair to do that to someone who doesn't have much materially.

    I do, however, roll eyes at people who have to make reference to their finances repeatedly. Like people who mention the brand of car they drive instead of just calling it a car. Tacky. And weirdly insecure. Some of the wealthiest people I know, well, you'd never know unless they told you. I really, really like people like that.

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    We can say that a rich person is no different from a poor person (though, demographically, that's probably not quite true, but never mind that). But the circumstances are different. The wealthier person has more capacity to sacrifice and more power to influence things with their actions alone. It's easier for them to do something, and what they do has more of an impact. If you accept the concept that power brings responsibility, and you accept the concept that money brings power, then you must accept that rich people have more responsibility.

    The character may be the same, the test is different. On account of that, I do think I scrutinize wealthy people more than poor people.
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    I just hate they pay lower taxes than the rest if anyone should be paying lower taxes it's the poor.
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    I don't judge people by their socio-economic status. But I do judge individuals by intelligence level, adaptability and flexibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisius View Post
    Nothing wrong with that I don't think. You sound like a nice person so I'll assume your family is good people too.

    @Lark I've said in other threads and in vent that I'm a communist. I've espoused socialistic ideals left and right. I didn't exactly hide it.
    Yeah, communism and socialism arent the same thing, I can say that I have a speculative and personal sympathy with socialism as Orwell, or other english socialists, understood it but I wouldnt sympathise with communism as I understand it.

    Although talking about proletarians is a little like talking about the third estate or some like that, its only going to be relevent as a sort of literary flar. Which has been the fate of marxism altogether pretty much, although considering Marx styled himself after Balzac and was really more of a social critic or social commentator than a socialist has a certain sort of poetic justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    I feel like just because someone is rich, they should not be penalized for it. They should not have to pay higher taxes. Think about it: If they pay the same percentage others pay, but make $100K+ more, that is already a lot more revenue for the government.

    I do believe deductions and exemptions should weigh in favor of the economically challenged and young however.

    And because our population is starting to really cause us problems now (lack of enough jobs for everyone), there should no longer be tax breaks for families with kids. Nor tax breaks for married families (that makes it feel like singles are being punished, which they are).

    And, no, Lark, the rich don't freak me out. Why would they?
    From a certain stand point that sounds as arbitrary a criteria as those you criticise, I dont believe the purpose of taxation is a penalty and I wouldnt suggest penalising anyone merely because of their social status or social class.

    Why would they? The potential for wealth to equal power and for that power to be corrupting has been mentioned, perhaps considering rich people as all being harmless dilettantes or philanthropists persecuted by taxmen is as rational as my own gut reaction but I'll admit that my own reaction is not strictly rational.

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    I got two thousand dollars for chrismtas, and I now feel rich, probably isn't actually a lot of money, but to me it is, and that's all that matters
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    i dunno what else to say so

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