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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Consider. Is there value in referring to cultural heritage as the guideline for the current and future or is it that in cherishing the past and brainwashing ourselves, we end up on the same foolish road to tragedy as our ancestors?
    But who are "our" ancestors? And what is the definition of "heritage" that we're using.

    I'm still waiting for Mr Op to come back and define his terms.

    Also just saw this and thought it was funny:

    If I was a poor black kid
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    I don't know if pride is the right word...maybe identification?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    @Lark Are you not making a distinction between the absence of racial/cultural pride and discarding heritage? I'm a genealogist for my family. Both family and general history are fascinating to me. It's important to know where I/we come from and I will definitely communicate this information to my children some day. But glowing pride in deeds I did not perform? Borders I did not cross? Wars I did not fight? For what?
    Yeah, this is generally how I feel about it, if by "heritage" we're referring to ethnic heritage.

    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Also just saw this and thought it was funny:

    If I was a poor black kid
    LOL, I liked this guy's response to that ridiculous article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    LOL, I liked this guy's response to that ridiculous article.
    For more patter about 'heritage' look at the responses to this response:

    http://ideas.time.com/2011/12/15/if-...oor-black-kid/

    They are actually articulate responses, at least the first few.
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    Umm.. I'm proud a *little*, just because I appreciate the cultures in general. I appreciate other cultures too, but it's kind of cool to have your own, I guess. I believe in "individuals" and "general humankind" as the ultimate culture, but that doesn't mean there isn't diversity in that. You strip it away and even humanity becomes meaningless. Meaning is found in all of the details.

    That said, I'm mixed race, so these cultures I am a part of are worlds apart (Danish and Thai). It's pretty much impossible to be "racist" about it. I'd eventually be hating on myself... somehow.

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    I am proud of me for being me... ta daa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I don't know if pride is the right word...maybe identification?
    I agree that terminology is part of the trouble. Heritage can (but not necessarily) contribute to our identity. I identify as being mixed race and American, but can claim no credit for either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Umm.. I'm proud a *little*, just because I appreciate the cultures in general. I appreciate other cultures too, but it's kind of cool to have your own, I guess. I believe in "individuals" and "general humankind" as the ultimate culture, but that doesn't mean there isn't diversity in that. You strip it away and even humanity becomes meaningless. Meaning is found in all of the details.
    Yeah that. I mean, I just like some things about it. Maybe pride isn't the right word, but I don't see why there's so much hate or indifference towards a differentiated culture.
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    Imagine a world with no culture or heritage....Boorrrrrring!!!!!
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    I am interested in my heritage because it reveals my origins. I can't say that I am proud or boastful about it. As a rule, only be proud of the things you set in motion.

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