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    Her first love was a Jewish filmmaker and Dad sent him to Siberia. Wow indeed.

    Have you read Archangel by Robert Harris? Fiction, but a great book, and this made me think of it. He is good on alternate history. Fatherland is also a great book - what if the Nazis had won the war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    Her first love was a Jewish filmmaker and Dad sent him to Siberia. Wow indeed.

    Have you read Archangel by Robert Harris? Fiction, but a great book, and this made me think of it. He is good on alternate history. Fatherland is also a great book - what if the Nazis had won the war?
    I read Fatherland, I thought it was good at the time but since I've decided it was unconvincing, the revelation of the holocaust and cover up wouldnt have been enough to ignite a cold war and spell the end of the regime I dont think.

    K is for Killing was the same, I dont think that the agent smuggling the news of the holocaust out and exposing it in America would have been enough to bring out the down fall of a US KKK-Hoover regime and bring the US into the war on the side of the allies against Hitler.

    To be honest I think the best description of the sort of mix of terror and entropy I suspect all dictatorships would be subject to is Orwell's 1984.

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    I haven't read Fatherland, but from what I understand of the overall geopolitical situation described I find it rather plausible had Hitler won WWII(although IIRC there's still continual fighting in Russia).

    I'm afraid I've only seen the film adaptation of it:
    [youtube="jvR15G8yEhg"]Fatherland[/youtube]

    Now I believe this is different from the events described in the novel, but had D-Day failed, the Third Reich was still in a desperate situation but would've gained more breathing space to hold out a bit longer or maybe(and that's a big maybe) seek a settlement.

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    Svetlana had nothing to do with Daddy Evil. I'm glad she ran from him. I'm just sorry for the two children she left behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    Svetlana had nothing to do with Daddy Evil. I'm glad she ran from him. I'm just sorry for the two children she left behind.
    She returned to the Soviet Union briefly in the 1980s, renouncing the US, but left again after feuding with relatives.
    I dunno, she sounds like an opportunist, much like her father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I dunno, she sounds like an opportunist, much like her father.
    I would hesitate to parallel *anyone* to Stalin, dude. He was a mass murderer. Perhaps she did take advantage of opportunities that came her way, but that hardly qualifies her as a daddy's girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    I would hesitate to parallel *anyone* to Stalin, dude. He was a mass murderer. Perhaps she did take advantage of opportunities that came her way, but that hardly qualifies her as a daddy's girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I dunno, she sounds like an opportunist, much like her father.
    She might have still had some soviet ideas. Or she might have just thought the USA sucked like so many do. That doesn't change the fact that she had obvious reasons to get away from the land and legacy of her father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    I would hesitate to parallel *anyone* to Stalin, dude. He was a mass murderer. Perhaps she did take advantage of opportunities that came her way, but that hardly qualifies her as a daddy's girl.
    Why not? Everyone likes to pretend the Stalins and Pol Pots and Hitlers are like some alien invader dropped from above. They are human beings, perfectly placed in history to do what they did. There are a million of them alive right now.

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