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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    What are the key benefits of prohibition?
    keeps lots of drug dealers, manufacturers, smugglers etc. employed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthtrekker1775 View Post
    Keeps prisons full and labor union prison guards employed.

    ...but I am not for the legalization of drugs beyond the decriminalization of marijuana.
    Why not reduce the number of criminals by 50% and keep the number of guards the same? Same # of guard employees, lower guard workload, more people in the workforce outside of prison, etc.

    I think this is something we can all agree on

    Why do you support ecstasy prohibition but not marijuana prohibition?

    What is the key difference between the two forms of prohibition that would lead you to support one, but not the other?

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    Because marijuana and perhaps DMT are two of the very few drugs that do not have commonly occuring, serious side effects with long lasting to permanent sequelae. But if people want to smoke marijuana they ought to have higher insurance premiums just like they ought to if they smoke cigarettes. Because society should not have to foot the bill for the poor choices of the few who insist on making them.
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    Why do you think we would ban smoking and legalise ekstasi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthtrekker1775 View Post
    Because marijuana and perhaps DMT are two of the very few drugs that do not have commonly occuring, serious side effects with long lasting to permanent sequelae. But if people want to smoke marijuana they ought to have higher insurance premiums just like they ought to if they smoke cigarettes. Because society should not have to foot the bill for the poor choices of the few who insist on making them.
    What are the commonly occurring, serious side-effects of ecstasy use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    What are the commonly occurring, serious side-effects of ecstasy use?
    http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/mdma.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthtrekker1775 View Post
    I would say that using ecstasy hundreds of times could potentially cause memory problems

    Given that less than 1% of users will ever use the drug hundreds of times, would this relatively extraordinary (not "common" as you indicated) circumstance warrant a nationwide prohibition on ecstasy?

    Would you support a similar prohibition on other substances which could potentially cause memory deficits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    I would say that using ecstasy hundreds of times could potentially cause memory problems

    Given that less than 1% of users will ever use the drug hundreds of times, would this relatively extraordinary (not "common" as you indicated) circumstance warrant a nationwide prohibition on ecstasy?

    Would you support a similar prohibition on other substances which could potentially cause memory deficits?
    Think outside the box/do your own research. I don't have time to dig around PubMed for what you could just as easily google. My lack of time ≠ loss of argument.

    Here is a very short excerpt from http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/821572-overview

    "they may present to the ED, usually complaining of symptoms of dehydration and hyperthermia. While most improve with supportive treatment alone, the patient should be evaluated for signs of hyperthermia, dehydration, hyponatremia, seizures, hypertensive crises, cardiac dysrhythmias, and possible signs of serotonin syndrome.

    MDMA use has increased dramatically, becoming a global phenomenon. The misconception that MDMA is a safe drug continues to be a major problem. Many of the myths concern the fact that it was once legal as a psychotherapeutic adjunct and that it has few adverse effects. The medical community's awareness of MDMA has increased, and conclusive evidence indicates that significant morbidity and mortality are associated with its use. Physicians must be able to recognize these symptoms and to treat and educate patients accordingly."

    There are several pages of material there, and if you are so inclined, you are welcome to look up the actual peer-reviewed published research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    What are the key benefits of prohibition?
    To give politicians an opportunity to pander to voters by claiming they're "tough on crime".
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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