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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Do you think the the prehistoric men neeed regulations to have a common acceptation of what a tree is?

    Ridiculous.
    No

    Are you a prehistoric man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Right, we also don't need regulation on paint. I mean, if people want to use lead paint on children's toys to save money, parents will figure it out when they test it in their home chemistry laboratory every parent has in their basement. Let the market decide!

    More seriously, civilization has become infinitely more complex in the last hundred years due to our technological advancement. 100 years ago, fewer regulations were needed. Today, it is simply not possible for any consumer to have all the information necessary to make an informed choice without the aid of regulatory agencies. People depend on these regulatory agencies to set rules for products, otherwise everyone would need advanced degrees in chemistry, physics, medicine, engineering, etc just to be able to determine if a product is actually safe.
    It's private compagnies who took discovered that lead paint was dangerous and took initiatives to recall the toys and solve the problem. The administration was useless, and it's the same for every technical problems in the past century. To say that you need a master degree in chemistry is ridiculous, everyone is avare of the lead paint problem. Private compagnies are always working to create more and more confortable cars who are more and more secured. So yeah, let the market decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    No

    Are you a prehistoric man?
    Yes we are. We are of the same specie, what applies to them applies to us. The differences between us and them are purely protocols and cosmetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yes we are. We are of the same specie, what applies to them applies to us. The differences between us and them are purely protocols and cosmetics.
    Being of the same species determines very little but that we are of the same species

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Being of the same species determines very little but that we are of the same species
    We work the same way and we have the same right. So yes, what applies to them applies to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    It's private compagnies who took discovered that lead paint was dangerous and took initiatives to recall the toys and solve the problem. The administration was useless, and it's the same for every technical problems in the past century. To say that you need a master degree in chemistry is ridiculous, everyone is avare of the lead paint problem. Private compagnies are always working to create more and more confortable cars who are more and more secured. So yeah, let the market decide.
    So what if it was private or public? A regulation is a regulation is a regulation, regardless of the source. You're arguing that all regulations are bad.

    You don't need an advanced chemistry degree to know that lead is poisonous, but you would need one to know how to test all products you might buy for lead. Do you see the difference there? Probably not. You probably believe people don't have to know jack about electrical engineering to be able to test whether or not a generator meets the specs on its box (to make sure they're not getting ripped off). Ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    We work the same way and we have the same right. So yes, what applies to them applies to us.
    Much of what is applicable to an individual is also applicable to a second individual, yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yes we are. We are of the same specie, what applies to them applies to us. The differences between us and them are purely protocols and cosmetics.
    If you ignore culture, sure. It totally makes sense to ignore the one aspect of the human super organism that is evolving at the greatest rate. Culture is not cosmetic. /facepalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    So what if it was private or public? A regulation is a regulation is a regulation, regardless of the source. You're arguing that all regulations are bad.
    Autoregulation is natural and is fine. Bureaucratic regulation is wrong.

    You don't need an advance chemistry degree to know that lead is poisonous, but you would need one to know how to test all products you might buy for lead. Do you see the difference there? Probably not. You probably believe people don't have to know jack about electrical engineering to be able to test whether or not a generator meets the specs on its box (to make sure they're not getting ripped off). Ridiculous.
    What clues have you that all oh this is necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Much of what is applicable to an individual is also applicable to a second individual, yes
    Then we agree each other. Bravo!
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