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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    The vast majority of people that oppose the same corruption that the occupiers are out to "expose" are busy working jobs, and taking care of their families. It's silly to think that this movement really represents the only or true portion of Americans that are opposed to governmental corruption. The occupy movement does not speak for the "99%", in so far as if you were to compare it to a family and the youngest, bratty sibling is yelling, shouting and behaving erratically. There are better ways to achieve certain ends.
    So, there are no old people at occupy? You didnt answer my question.

    With the murders, child prostitution, people defecating in the streets, Heroin over doses, etc. it's really hard to take these groups seriously as being anything more than a bunch of disgruntled babies looking for somewhere to target their anger.
    So disgruntled babies like to prostitute children and do black tar heroin?

    So again I ask, what the hell is an 84 year old lady doing standing in front of riot cops?
    Im not sure what you are trying to say here. So because Occupy doesnt represent "true Americans" and likes to fuck children(first Ive heard of this) an old lady shouldnt be standing in front of riot cops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Which law allows the employment of weapons against people?
    Police have weapons and they are trained to use them with appropriate force. This is legal.

    OK. Let me ask you a question. If you were an officer called to disperse a crowd and they were not leaving and you already asked them a few times over loud speaker. Gave them a time to disperse and they are now over that time limit. You know you can't leave them here. (The school could sue you for not enforcing the law). How do you get them to leave?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post
    Police have weapons and they are trained to use them with appropriate force. This is legal.

    OK. Let me ask you a question. If you were an officer called to disperse a crowd and they were not leaving and you already asked them a few times over loud speaker. Gave them a time to disperse and they are now over that time limit. You know you can't leave them here. (The school could sue you for not enforcing the law). How do you get them to leave?
    Handcuffs

    Using weapons in that case would be assault. If there was an immediate threat of bodily harm, the use of weapons could be defended. Has there been a single instance of this circumstance at this protest?

    Not moving when a person tells you to move is not an immediate threat of bodily harm

    Or is it?

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    I agree. So you go in and try to pick up a protestor and put their hands behind their back. Meanwhile you are in a crowd of people who start to shout and try to pull you off their friend. You are now outnumbered and surrounded. Your co-workers are trying to get to you but they can't. They are being pushed back. What do you do now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDP2525 View Post
    I agree. So you go in and try to pick up a protestor and put their hands behind their back. Meanwhile you are in a crowd of people who start to shout and try to pull you off their friend. You are now outnumbered and surrounded. Your co-workers are trying to get to you but they can't. They are being pushed back. What do you do now?

    [YOUTUBE="BjnR7xET7Uo"]Protesters assault police officers[/YOUTUBE]

    Who is pulling who?

    Who is pushed back?

    Why can't your co-workers get to you?

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    [YOUTUBE="I0pX9LeE-g8"]Yeah.[/YOUTUBE]

    This guy definitely was trying to pull those police officers down. Especially when he asked if it was ok to film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    The vast majority of people that oppose the same corruption that the occupiers are out to "expose" are busy working jobs, and taking care of their families. It's silly to think that this movement really represents the only or true portion of Americans that are opposed to governmental corruption. The occupy movement does not speak for the "99%", in so far as if you were to compare it to a family and the youngest, bratty sibling is yelling, shouting and behaving erratically. There are better ways to achieve certain ends.

    With the murders, child prostitution, people defecating in the streets, Heroin over doses, etc. it's really hard to take these groups seriously as being anything more than a bunch of disgruntled babies looking for somewhere to target their anger.

    So again I ask, what the hell is an 84 year old lady doing standing in front of riot cops?
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    Which age is the correct age to protest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Who is pulling who?
    I would have loved an answer to my last post because that is what often happens. Officers get separated and chaos ensues regardless and even more force is used by police because they become disorganized. Officer safety is a big reason why police use pepper spray.
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