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  • Yes, I'd vote to re-elect Obama.

    28 50.91%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    I don't know much about the other candidates, but since I don't approve his quantitative easing + too big to fail strategies, I wouldn't vote him. I'm not american.
    Quantitave easing: Cheating. It is easy to govern and please everybody with an unlimited budget. But history won't forgive this.
    Aside from Obama, most (except a few...their chances are slim) of the other candidates sound even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What are we committed to? Our nation or our political party? Just curious. These are the perils of having a democratic system, and it seems a copout to bail when one's preferred side happens to not currently be in power. Do we believe in our country or not?
    +1000. Not to sound like an old man, but I wonder if a lot of people in their 20s right now even realize how different the landscape is from 25 years ago. The polarization is so intractable, and so much of each party's agenda seems to be simply undoing whatever the other party did. It's so childish. In fact, the way no one even pretends to be trying to fix America instead of feeding their base frankly borders on traitorous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    It's been a long time since we've had a decent guy running the White House. I'm committed to freedom from socialism. Freedom from government bailouts. Freedom from Obamacare. Freedom from looking at Obama's ugly mug on the TV.
    Everything you need to know about the current Republican party is encapsulated in the fact that in order to be credible with the party, Mitt Romney needed to apologize for helping people with jobs that are sick. And I'm a guy who voted for GHW Bush and Bob Dole.

    Houston we have problem, Obama canceled the space shuttle program and pretty much gave it away to the Russians. Tons of NASA lay-offs. Do you realize that? Yes, he must go.
    Obama didn't cancel the Space Shuttle program, Bush did. Which was actually one of his better decisions. The Shuttle was expensive, inefficient, and filled with 1970s technology. It kills me to say it as a space geek, but NASA is lucky it exists at all the way it's fallen from the days of Apollo. Wasted money, failed programs, and terrible leadership mean they have no basis for complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Obama didn't cancel the Space Shuttle program, Bush did. Which was actually one of his better decisions. The Shuttle was expensive, inefficient, and filled with 1970s technology. It kills me to say it as a space geek, but NASA is lucky it exists at all the way it's fallen from the days of Apollo. Wasted money, failed programs, and terrible leadership mean they have no basis for complaint.
    True, thanks for the clarification I remember my Dad telling me about that, but you left out the rest of the story. Though the space shuttle was outdated and could not travel very far and Bush canceled that program as the focus was shifted on travelling farther from Earth's orbit. NASA was working on another more technologically advanced vehicle that could go the distance. Bush very much supported the renewed effort to send astronauts to the moon, thus NASA received funding when Bush was in office. Does that make sense? What Obama did was immediately cancel the moon mission goals all together and the funding stopped, which created massive layoffs at NASA and NASA had to resort to buying seats on the outdated Russian capsules to get to the space station because it was cheaper than flying the shuttle.

    You're not giving NASA enough credit. I'll have to address your BS statements tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd Girl View Post
    It's been a long time since we've had a decent guy running the White House. I'm committed to freedom from socialism. Freedom from government bailouts. Freedom from Obamacare. Freedom from looking at Obama's ugly mug on the TV.
    These seem to be more like personal complaints rather than arguments with followable logic. I mean, I was tired of looking at Bush's big ears, but not enough to make it a cogent point in my speech.

    Houston we have problem, Obama canceled the space shuttle program and pretty much gave it away to the Russians. Tons of NASA lay-offs. Do you realize that? Yes, he must go.
    I consider myself a lightweight in terms of my knowledge of political details in this country, because I don't actively invest a lot of time researching it, yet I learned yesterday while lying in my hospital bed reading freakin' Yahoo News that Bush actually killed the space shuttle program, not Obama.

    I've always loved the space program as well ever since I was young (what NT wouldn't?), so I'd prefer not to see it go; yet I would still have to examine the big picture and see what our priorities are as a country, with SO many things going wrong right now, before I could comment on whether space exploration is worth more investment than health care or any other issue currently hanging over our head. I do feel badly for a friend of mine who actually worked on the space shuttle programs as an engineer; it was hard for her to watch everything get mothballed.

    (And why is the fact that it was given to the "Russians" worth mentioning here? Are we human, or are we still territorial? Does the US own space? There are so many of your comments that seem like I'm reading some sort of religious political commentary from the 1950's. I'm trying to understand the basis for what is driving your conclusions and I'm coming up short, I'm just not getting it.)

    EDIT: Okay, just saw your post above this (I'm reading sequentially), so thanks for explaining it that much. I'll have to read more before commenting on that, because my knowledge just isn't there.

    The reality is that Obama really isn't that leftist, nor has he been. I don't think Bush was really that conservative either, both were more moderate on their respective sides than they were touted by the extremes of their party. I mean, if we just want to talk about same-sex marriage for a moment, which is a main issue for the liberal end of things, Obama still isn't even sold on that -- he's been supportive overall of LGBT rights, but was hedging on full support for same-sex marriage. I just never really saw him as much of a liberal to begin with... unless he was being compared to who came before him.
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    I'm not in the US, so I dont have a vote, but I would.

    There's no way I think that alternatives would be anything but terrible, plus there's no left wing alternative.

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    Obama has been such a terrible president that I've decided to vote next year. I'm horrified at his continuation of Bush's policies(both domestic and foreign) and I'm sick of hearing about how it's all Bush's fault, I'm confused about how his plans to spend more of China's money on projects that provide little-to-no long term financial lift will help our economy and I'm almost amused that he thinks pouring billions of dollars into K-12 education while simultaneously cutting funds for college students will somehow solve America's growing problems. I'm not foolish enough to believe my vote will make a difference, especially when you see the nut cases in the Republican debates, but I do think that voting in an election while our infrastructure is decaying, economy collapsing and our position in the world declining is a nice civil gesture.

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    Given Obama's apparent opposition, I would not hesitate to vote for him again.
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    You know, I am really too uninformed to make a serious decision on that, but since I don't vote in your country it is ok I guess From the bits that you hear about the alternatives, I would rather vote for Obama, although I am not really convinced by his work either, but there seems to be no decent alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post

    ...kinda funny to have to listen to all the liberal celebs bitch about how America was worth abandoning if Bush got reelected -- they'd flee to Canada. Now we get to listen to the same junk from the conservatives.

    What are we committed to? Our nation or our political party? Just curious. These are the perils of having a democratic system, and it seems a copout to bail when one's preferred side happens to not currently be in power. Do we believe in our country or not?
    Exactly. My husband is one of the "I'm moving to Canada" guys, but even if that was a realistic option (which it's not), I think I'd rather stick around and try to help change what I don't like about our country.

    I still believe in Obama's vision. I will be voting for him again.
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