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    I just watched this documentary about porn and its effect on sexual expectations. It's kinda interesting.
    http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/comme...&preadd=action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    Im going to go out on a limb and say this author subscribes to "Womb Envy" theory as well. My personal theory for why men oppressed women is because humans are monkeys and also just sort of suck in general.
    I agree. As the saying goes "Monkey see, monkey do".
    I don't think men oppressed women in the past because of womb envy or because they are afraid of women. I think they did because they simply could and utilized the opportunity to do. Sort of like an opportunist. Once it started, it was just a snowball effect after that. I don't believe that the oppression of women in the past deserves any more outrage than the oppression of africans in the americas, and/or jews in europe. Not to mention that women (and everyone for that matter) have now been given the right to vote, own property and work just like everyone else, which is huge. At what point, do you forgive them? If anything, I see more men who champion and strive for equality among the genders. (hint: these same guys are some of the ones complaining about women liking jerks) They want it more than some women do. And rape, although it unfortunately still happens, is something men in general are disgusted by today.

    As for why men like to compete with other men, I have no idea and don't pretend to know why, but it seems to me that there are men who have no desire to do that. So it's not all men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I agree. As the saying goes "Monkey see, monkey do".
    I don't think men oppressed women in the past because of womb envy or because they are afraid of women. I think they did because they simply could and utilized the opportunity to do. Sort of like an opportunist. Once it started, it was just a snowball effect after that. I don't believe that the oppression of women in the past deserves any more outrage than the oppression of africans in the americas, and/or jews in europe. Not to mention that women (and everyone for that matter) have now been given the right to vote, own property and work just like everyone else, which is huge. At what point, do you forgive them? If anything, I see more men who champion and strive for equality among the genders. (hint: these same guys are some of the ones complaining about women liking jerks) They want it more than some women do. And rape, although it unfortunately still happens, is something men in general are disgusted by today.

    As for why men like to compete with other men, I have no idea and don't pretend to know why, but it seems to me that there are men who have no desire to do that. So it's not all men.
    Out of curiosity, do you attribute the bolded to their status as the majority or to their status as males?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Out of curiosity, do you attribute the bolded to their status as the majority or to their status as males?
    What do you mean by majority?

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    There's a very long way to go before women have equal rights in the world. In some societies, we're better off than in others, but for the most part, there's still work to do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    What do you mean by majority?
    I meant something along the lines of "Do they ostracize and oppress minorities because it's the nature of majorities in general, or because this particular majority is male?"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I meant something along the lines of "Do they ostracize and oppress minorities because it's the nature of majorities in general, or because this particular majority is male?"...
    I think it's the nature of humans with unchecked power.
    Not solely a human male thing, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I think it's the nature of humans with unchecked power.
    Not solely a human male thing, imo.
    Ah, OK. Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    There's a very long way to go before women have equal rights in the world. In some societies, we're better off than in others, but for the most part, there's still work to do...
    Its a very long way to go before people in general have equal rights in the world.

    Folks living in the US often forget that most of the world is a horrid place to live in, rife with abject poverty, oppression, and war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Its a very long way to go before people in general have equal rights in the world.

    Folks living in the US often forget that most of the world is a horrid place to live in, rife with abject poverty, oppression, and war.
    Yes.

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