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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Cat View Post
    They're also easiest to get money off of for a mundane cause. Potential goldmine.
    Sorry to break it to you, but filthy hippies don't have any money. There's a reason why they are filthy... and hippies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Sorry to break it to you, but filthy hippies don't have any money. There's a reason why they are filthy... and hippies.
    ooo that really hurts... I assume they're not good at manual labour also. A sad day for existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    Yeah, a major communications company blocking communications for political reasons is a big deal, thank you very fucking much.
    If a bunch of people send out a shitload of messages from an account, it's going to trigger the spam filter. I've moderated email lists on Yahoo many times and had the same thing happen. It's not a conspiracy. I didn't imagine Yahoo was doing 'evil ' things to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    If a bunch of people send out a shitload of messages from an account, it's going to trigger the spam filter. I've moderated email lists on Yahoo many times and had the same thing happen. It's not a conspiracy. I didn't imagine Yahoo was doing 'evil ' things to me.
    Well that clears that up. Still doesnt change my point, still doesnt make yours less petty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    I've see that the tactic, at least since slavery (which was just as much an international wealth scheme), is to get the poor and disenfranchised to blame each other, and that is basically what this two-wing system has been doing. (With the whole "personal responsibility" jargon as the Right side's deflection tactic).
    Hence, those powers remain above reproach. We're all too busy reproaching each other or the partisan figureheads claiming to represent one side or the other.
    I agree.

    I wouldnt devalue the personal responsibility discourse, it is a good one and an important one, I'll be honest that when I encountered it first it was the only thing which made me want to re-evaluate my views of conservatism and capitalist liberalism.

    Now, I will admit that it didnt make me think that those ideologies were any the less tools in the service of the rich, it was also because I came from an antiquated socialist tradition in which ideas such as self-government, self-reliance, independence and personal responsibility where not yet norms considered the preserve of conservatism.

    The resource argument is the left's only good response and its taken a long time to arrive, although I would honestly believe the deprivations which and lack of resources which cause the worst sorts of poverty are not only monetary, they are cultural and affective but if you're a millionaire and lack those things you'll manage a lot better than if you arent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    Well that clears that up.
    A rational reply. Finally. Wait, Yahoo might be bugging your phones. Run and check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I wouldnt devalue the personal responsibility discourse, it is a good one and an important one, I'll be honest that when I encountered it first it was the only thing which made me want to re-evaluate my views of conservatism and capitalist liberalism.
    I don't devalue it either, but while there may be a lot of truth to it; the way it often gets used, it ends becomes connected with gross generalizations. Such as all of some particular group's (including the poor, for example) problems are from "lack of personal responsibility". They'll appeal to stereotypical beliefs, or even particular instances, or doctored statistics to "prove" this. Yes, there are people need to to take more responsibility, but things are never that general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    I don't devalue it eiither, but while there may be a lot of truth to it; the way it often gets used, it ends becomes connectd with gross generalizations. Such as all of some particular group's (including the poor, for example) problems are from "lack of personal responsibility". They'll appeal to stereotypical beliefs, or even particular instances? or doctored statistics to "prove" this. Yes, there are people need to to take more responsibility, but things are never that general.
    Agreed.

    It is a good example of how economics and other discourse is really normative or at least is more normative than it is scientific.

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