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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    Cool, people like you just make it easier for me to make money. Less competition if you have more people who believe they can't join the 1%. Just because you want less opportunities, doesn't mean everyone does. Why should we put a cap on money-making by taxing the rich more? That limits me. It's like throwing-in-the-towel and saying "ok, please give me more of what you have, since i can't do for myself."
    This just makes you sound like an ignorant, self-important, entitled, and myopic bimbo.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    Yea, "benefiting our society as a whole" tends to include handing more money to people who sit on their asses all day, and less to people who get out there and earn their keep. It's pretty obvious who you are by your opinions and the way you present yourself.
    Yeah, I'm reporting you for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    THIS particular movement is only attacking Wall Street. That's what they are focusing on.
    Someone should focus on them for once. But yeah, go on, ignore the fact that they're protesting in Washington, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    There are plenty of statements here from me saying that some banks made mistakes. I don't doubt that Countrywide was fraudulent. I wouldn't have walked into Countrywide if someone paid me. Countrywide was run out of mobile homes and strip malls. They were there to-take-advantage of whomever they could, more than likely.
    Yeah, those are not "mistakes." That's criminal behavior.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    And who is paying for all of the damages these protestors are creating for the city of Oakland? The helicopters, the police force, broken shit, litter, filth, then of course, the usual jail term for the officer who struck-back etc. etc. etc. Then, of course, all of the people in this state using Section 8 so they can live beside me for the half the price I pay, people on welfare, etc. If you add it all up, I think the people sitting on their asses are taking out a larger chunk of my paycheck than any bank ever fucking has. Maybe I should start an "Occupy Ghetto" movement.
    Persist in your stupidity, then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    This just makes you sound ignorant.
    Yeah, I'm reporting you for this.

    Someone should focus on them for once. But yeah, go one, ignore the fact that they're protesting in Washington, too.

    Yeah, those are not "mistakes." That's criminal behavior.

    Persist in your stupidity, then.
    Lemme get this straight....
    I've NEVER heard you do anything here but be a negative fly in the ointment. You call innocent people ignorant and stupid all day long. I hope you report me.

    You would only be lucky enough for me to give you a job. With an attitude like you have, I never fucking would..... which answers my question about who you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    Lemme get this straight....
    I've NEVER heard you do anything here but be a negative fly in the ointment. You call innocent people ignorant and stupid all day long. I hope you report me.

    You would only be lucky enough for me to give you a job. With an attitude like you have, I never fucking would..... which answers my question about who you are.


    Given what I've seen of your intelligence, I'd wager that you're no Atlas, though it seems to be the most desperate wish of your heart to be identified as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post


    Given what I've seen of your intelligence, I'd wager that you're no Atlas.
    Who cares? My bank account is larger than you will ever see. Knowledge-only does not make success, young padawan.

    Nah, I don't care to be identified as intelligent. That's why I spent 17 years smoking dope. If I really cared to be identified as intelligent, I would be pursuing it a whole lot harder than hanging out on a forum with people i don't know. I know what my intelligence is, and I'm happy with it. i don't care to be any more intelligent necessarily, but I do care to have more understanding and to become more informed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical Hit View Post
    So in an anarcho-cap society oil would magically regenerate?

    Everything in economics plays out in unforeseen ways brah. Economists, yes even Austrian Economists, have been empirically shown to be on par with journalists in predicting the economy.

    So the Economy as a mass cannot be controlled forever, therefore we should get rid of all regulations and interventions in the market?

    Except by the rich.
    I dont think that oil will regenerate, I think that got a mention because the libertarian idea is that scarce resources are better managed by private companies and that free markets, through price signals, permit better planning by consumers and firms to best manage those scarce resources. Although that sort of calculation theory reasoning seriously falters in sectors of the economy with no competition, not even a trend towards competition and definitely less competitiveness without state or supernational interventions. Monopolies will are the rocks upon which most libertarianism wrecks itself, globalism and attacking the state are no remedies either.

    The thing about controlling the market is that its not uncontrolled already, its state control which is the bug bear and I'm beginning to suspect that its only because its a bug bear for monopolists, the same people who sponsor most libertarians, because states have a potential to be democratic, that's threatening and could result in quick bucks taking a hit because the public want to mandate control on pollution or some other competiting priority instead. Consumers cant do that. Even if consumer sovereignty wasnt really a myth.

    Reading EB's posts I'm less and less convinced that he's done a lot of serious reading on the topic and hopes that some nifty rhetoric will carry the day instead. That's not surprising. Libertarians remind me of yesterdays Trotskyists, it matters less if you are right than whether or not you can win an argument, outsmarting someone with clever rhetoric isnt the same as being right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    Who cares? My bank account is larger than you will ever see. Knowledge-only does not make success, young padawan.

    Nah, I don't care to be identified as intelligent. That's why I spent 17 years smoking dope. If I really cared to be identified as intelligent, I would be pursuing it a whole lot harder than hanging out on a forum with people i don't know. I know what my intelligence is, and I'm happy with it. i don't care to be any more intelligent necessarily, but I do care to have more understanding and to become more informed.
    So how did you let him trick you into discussing yourself instead of the topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Helpless? I think we can control the economy. You think we have to resign to the will of some kind of imaginary market entity. You sound like the helpless one to me.
    Yup. The market is to libertarians what an idol or golden calf would be to idolaters, originally their creation, it now controls them and they have to conform to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    So how did you let him trick you into discussing yourself instead of the topic?
    I guess I just love talking about myself. So any opportunity, I take.

    No seriously, just don't care. It's not important to me. I have no interest in playing games. Is that a "him" because I thought it was a "her".... hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    This just makes you sound like an ignorant, self-important, entitled, and myopic bimbo.
    Cool, since you sound like a loser who has never had a date or a life and sits around in mommy's basement all day, reading and playing kiddie games with people on forums. I would be a negative, unattractive person too if I were in your position. You have no real-world experiences, and haven't earned enough money or real-world skills to leave mommy's basement, yet you know what my fucking answers should be. It seems to me that mommy needs to dole out more punishments and pay attention to you.

    You think I'm entitled? Lemme tell ya' what, I've mostly-worked ever since I was 14 and left home at 18. I earn what I get, and I don't believe the rich should hand me theirs. You seem to have no idea what "entitled" really means. It means sitting around in a fucking basement hoping the rich will give you some money if only you attack them hard enough. It means not earning what you think you deserve.

    I can shoot for whatever goals I want, and as long as I earn it respectfully, it's mine. I deserve to set my own goals and work to earn a life. Everyone does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    So how did you let him trick you into discussing yourself instead of the topic?
    @ICUP was done discussing the topic in any serious way a long time ago. Before she started talking about her bank account, which was unsolicited information BTW, she was busy calling me a bum because I told her she was wrong about Bank of America being the innocent victim of government bullies and street protestors.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    I guess I just love talking about myself. So any opportunity, I take.
    You don't say?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    No seriously, just don't care. It's not important to me. I have no interest in playing games. Is that a "him" because I thought it was a "her".... hmmm.
    I am indeed a she.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    Cool, since you sound like a loser who has never had a date or a life and sits around in mommy's basement all day, reading and playing kiddie games with people on forums. I would be a negative, unattractive person too if I were in your position. You have no real-world experiences, and haven't earned enough money or real-world skills to leave mommy's basement, yet you know what my fucking answers should be. It seems to me that mommy needs to dole out more punishments and pay attention to you.
    Do you see no irony at all in what you're saying? You sound like a child throwing a tantrum, and if you're not actually a child, then you certainly have the mentality of one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    You think I'm entitled? Lemme tell ya' what, I've mostly-worked ever since I was 14 and left home at 18. I earn what I get, and I don't believe the rich should hand me theirs. You seem to have no idea what "entitled" really means. It means sitting around in a fucking basement hoping the rich will give you some money if only you attack them hard enough. It means not earning what you think you deserve.
    Yes, I do think you're acting in quite an entitled way. Instead of focusing on the issues at hand, which are broader than you or I, or anyone else in particular (even the people fucked over directly by the banks), you insist on prattling on about what you deserve and what's owed you because you supposedly worked hard, and then because you feel so entitled to your "success," you also feel the need to comment on what other people do or do not deserve. This simplistic and selfish way of thinking has shaped your entire "contribution" to this discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    I can shoot for whatever goals I want, and as long as I earn it respectfully, it's mine. I deserve to set my own goals and work to earn a life. Everyone does.
    Aww, look at you yammering on about what you deserve again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICUP View Post
    I guess I just love talking about myself. So any opportunity, I take.

    No seriously, just don't care. It's not important to me. I have no interest in playing games. Is that a "him" because I thought it was a "her".... hmmm.
    Its a bot for all we know

    Grand. Just was intervening in case you where getting drawn in unwitthingly. There's poster's who're specialists in getting a rise out of people within the rules of the forum.

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