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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    American news is absolutely fucked, so I imagine anything might be better.

    I'm still miffed that Dave Ramsey had the nerve to say that the protestors had it wrong in targeting Wall Street. That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've heard since the 2008 election.
    agreed. it's kind of a bad sign when a communist country has more honest news than us.
    that being said, I part way agree with him. the main thing we should be targeting is the federal reserve banking system. targeting wall street is a little too broad. wall street is not a specific organization, so there is not a lot they can accomplish in actuality narrowing down their focus. that is why I don't think this protest will accomplish much, but if future protests are more specific and targeted, there is much more hope for this country than I would have thought a few years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    agreed. it's kind of a bad sign when a communist country has more honest news than us.
    that being said, I part way agree with him. the main thing we should be targeting is the federal reserve banking system. targeting wall street is a little too broad. wall street is not a specific organization, so there is not a lot they can accomplish in actuality narrowing down their focus. that is why I don't think this protest will accomplish much, but if future protests are more specific and targeted, there is much more hope for this country than I would have thought a few years ago
    The Fed under Alan Greenspan was certainly the orchestrator of the bursted-bubble financial problems of the last couple of decades. But the shenanigans of banks such as AIG and Morgan Sachs fucked things up even more. Wall Street is absolutely the place to be. The protests, if nothing else, draw attention to the scams and bullshit of "Wall Street," which essentially means the biggest banks, where it had been basically left alone before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    agreed. it's kind of a bad sign when a communist country has more honest news than us.
    that being said, I part way agree with him. the main thing we should be targeting is the federal reserve banking system. targeting wall street is a little too broad. wall street is not a specific organization, so there is not a lot they can accomplish in actuality narrowing down their focus. that is why I don't think this protest will accomplish much, but if future protests are more specific and targeted, there is much more hope for this country than I would have thought a few years ago
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    I imagine that the more targeted the protests are the more open to law suits they are. Protesting the corrupting influence of corporate money on politicians in general is a lot safer than protesting the corrupting influence of money from corporation X on politician Y, for instance.

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    wow is your text implying there's something wrong with communism and why would you do that? and also why would you imply everyone else is going to agree with you? you're an ENFP, I was hoping you'd see the wider picture (than the political propaganda the US has been shoving down its citizens - oh oops, should i say its consumers!? - the last decades)

    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    agreed. it's kind of a bad sign when a communist country has more honest news than us.
    that being said, I part way agree with him. the main thing we should be targeting is the federal reserve banking system. targeting wall street is a little too broad. wall street is not a specific organization, so there is not a lot they can accomplish in actuality narrowing down their focus. that is why I don't think this protest will accomplish much, but if future protests are more specific and targeted, there is much more hope for this country than I would have thought a few years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    agreed. it's kind of a bad sign when a communist country has more honest news than us.
    Russia is not a communist country anymore. You are twenty years late. Where US news has bias, Russian news has censorship.

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    or rather, it never was, since communism NEVER existed in practice anywhere. get your facts right. get yours concepts right. russia was a socialism country. if you think it makes no difference i disagree, it makes tons of difference (and for the scope of this conversation also).
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    Russia is not a communist country anymore. You are twenty years late. Where US news has bias, Russian news has censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    or rather, it never was, since communism NEVER existed in practice anywhere. get your facts right. get yours concepts right. russia was a socialism country. if you think it makes no difference i disagree, it makes tons of difference (and for the scope of this conversation also).
    That which Elfboy called a communist country is no more. I am not interested in all the rest, though I do agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    or rather, it never was, since communism NEVER existed in practice anywhere. get your facts right. get yours concepts right. russia was a socialism country. if you think it makes no difference i disagree, it makes tons of difference (and for the scope of this conversation also).
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