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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Yes, it presumes a good welfare system. And Sweden does have a good welfare system. And Australia does have a good welfare system, not as good as Sweden's, but we are getting there.
    yes, it is odd...there is very little need in a society that isn't brutally capitalist...a brutally capitalist society suggests that you also become a capitalist to survive or get what you want or need

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Consider:
    Person A has a resource B wants
    Person B has a resource A wants
    Person A wants to make a deal
    Person B wants to make a deal

    Now comes institution C imposing Person A and B can't trade their resources. Even worse, they call it freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    I do because sometimes people use coercion, fear, or even violence to SELL OTHER PEOPLE for their survival.

    That's why I think it should be legalized.
    Then it's not really consensual. Being forced into prostitution is a different discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moniker View Post
    Then it's not really consensual. Being forced into prostitution is a different discussion.
    HAHAHA...you dont' think that people ever turn to prostitution as a last resort, not because they want to, but because they feel forced to survive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Consider:
    Person A has a resource B wants
    Person B has a resource A wants
    Person A wants to make a deal
    Person B wants to make a deal

    Now comes institution C imposing Person A and B can't trade their resources. Even worse, they call it freedom.
    Slaves, of course are a great resource, and were a resource that underpinned the economy of the South of the USA. But today institution C says persons A and B can't trade slaves. And this is freedom.

    We can't buy a slave today, and soon we won't be able to buy a woman.

    And it is freedom, for freedom is indivisible. I can't be free if slaves, women and children are not free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moniker View Post
    I don't see the correlation between slavery in any capacity and consensual sex in any capacity.
    It's probably important to see it in historical terms, for the first time in human history, institutional slavery was abolished in 1833 by the House of Commons.

    In historical terms, this is only yesterday, so we can see this is just a beginning, a first step to freedom. We still have a long way to go in the West, and even further to go in poor, uneducated, and undemocratic countries.

    And so we have promises to keep, and miles to go before we sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Surely you don't believe in this formulation implicitly?
    I'm not sure if I understood the question, but I think my logic is good. Assuming both parties wanna make the deal, this is more a moral issue than anything, and politics shouldn't interfere on moral matters.
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    I'm curious about what makes a social ill worthy of regulation, but not banning. Under the same reasoning why not have a Pedo-district where children could be molested in a safe environment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    I'm curious about what makes a social ill worthy of regulation, but not banning. Under the same reasoning why not have a Pedo-district where children could be molested in a safe environment?
    Because, presumably, the prostitutes are not being coerced into providing their sexual services. I agree that unwilling prostitution (which is basically commercialised rape) should be banned. However, legalizing the practice of two consenting adults making a knowing, willing decision to sell a sexual service is not the same thing as forcing a woman to be raped in order to make money off of it. In fact, it would legitimize the sex trade and give anyone who wanted to enter into this line of work a safer, more secure option to do so.

    On the other hand, a pedophile district would be made entirely of children being forced into sexual practice. Even if they did so willingly, the effect that this type of sexual activity would have on them at such a young age would be emotionally scarring, to say the least. Children cannot give consent. Adults can.

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