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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Except she sends my sisters links on facebook that say things like "how to marry a rich man" and I'm just like MOM JESUS CHRIST CAN'T YOU SEPARATE BUSINESS FROM PERSONAL LIFE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    Women were allowed to vote in New Zealand in 1893. Their antipodean cousins should not be given more than their due credit for advancing the rights of women.
    Yes, this is true. And Australian women, including aboriginal women, were voting in Australia in the 1890s. However it was at Federation in 1901 that women gained their emancipation across a whole Continent.

    And by-the-way, New Zealand become part of the Australian Constitution in 1901, and remains part of our Constitution today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    It's cute though cuz she had a hard life. She took care of my grandmother when she had breast cancer when she was TEN YEARS OLD. She used to to cross the fucking highway in NC near the tobacco fields in NC, even though she was raised in Hawaii, holding my little Uncle Joe's hand, to go to school. Sometimes she was dirty. I mean, going to school dirty, and her teachers SAID SOMETHING. My grandfather drank back then, he was a sailor, in the Navy. He straightened up, our lives became respectable and middle class. My mom said my grandpa would buy her Barbies and not necessities. Finally, my grandfather stopped drinking, my mother was a cheerleader in high school, and there are lovely 1960's pictures of them in Brady Bunch gear.

    My mom married my dad at 18 and was beaten, and dragged down the beach BY HER HAIR ON HER WEDDING NIGHT; my dad was ten years older - a jazz musician, much more street smart and savvy, was abusive and cheated on her, did drugs.

    She left him while she was pregnant with me, TO PROTECT MY LIFE, and lived with my grandparents.

    Then she remarried, to a man who demanded endless children and wasn't happy, like Henry the 8th, that she couldn't bear him a son. Nevermind that it was his fault.

    So I totally forgive my mother.

    It's just embarrassing, that's all.

    Gosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    I agree that we should free women by telling them what they can and cannot do with their lives.

    We will do this by implementing these criminal laws.

    I believe that we can make a difference.
    Perhaps we have a misunderstanding. For prostitution has been legalised across Sweden and Australia, and it is the buying of sex, the buying of a body of another person that has been made illegal in Sweden, and we are talking about it in Australia.

    These laws provide no controls over women, rather they control the actions of some men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Actually legalizing prostitution is freeing women from the criminal abuses that occur in illegal low-grade prostitution like street walking, or even some escorting, which can be somewhat dangerous, depending.

    The safest prostitution is to have "red light districts" and legal ...what my ESFP mother calls "houses of ill repute" with a wink and a giggle, especially when she jokingly suggests being the madam of her own....because there they receive health care, protection for all kinds of safety, and regulated pay.

    Prostitution is not going to go away because you make it illegal, it's just going to become seedier and uglier and much less safe.
    Sure, Sweden and Australia legalised prostitution as the lesser of two evils. And by regulating prostitution, we take it out of the hands of criminals, we can ensure health and safety, and put it in and appropriate place.

    The next step is to leave prostitution legal, but criminalise the buying of sex.

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    So we criminalize the men who buy it but not the women who sell it.

    But like what if that's all they have to sell.

    That's why I'm a mild socialist at heart, I hate the idea of people ONLY having "this" to sell for basic survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moniker View Post
    ^ Agreed. Why should a government dictate what a woman, or anyone for that matter, does with their body? I'm not even necessarily defending prostitution from an ethical standpoint, if such a thing exists, but plenty of women use their bodies for financial gain. Some do it in the form of marriage.
    We have laws against slavery. And we have laws aganst child sex. And we have laws against selling children for sex. It seems a natural progression to have laws against the buying of any sex. I mean we don't want to go back to the selling of human beings as slaves, so in the future we won't want to go back to buying a person for sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    We have laws against slavery. And we have laws aganst child sex. And we have laws against selling children for sex. It seems a natural progression to have laws against the buying of any sex. I mean we don't want to go back to the selling of human beings as slaves, so in the future we won't want to go back to buying a person for sex.
    I don't see the correlation between slavery in any capacity and consensual sex in any capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    So we criminalize the men who buy it but not the women who sell it.

    But like what if that's all they have to sell.

    That's why I'm a mild socialist at heart, I hate the idea of people ONLY having "this" to sell for basic survival.
    Yes, it presumes a good welfare system. And Sweden does have a good welfare system. And Australia does have a good welfare system, not as good as Sweden's, but we are getting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moniker View Post
    I don't see the correlation between slavery in any capacity and consensual sex in any capacity.
    I do because sometimes people use coercion, fear, or even violence to SELL OTHER PEOPLE for their survival.

    That's why I think it should be legalized.

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