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    Default Audience at tea party debate cheers leaving uninsured to die

    LMAO

    At least Ron Paul was smart about it:

    "Are you saying that society should just let him die?" Blitzer pressed Paul. And that's when the audience got involved.

    Several loud cheers of "yeah!" followed by laughter could be heard in the Expo Hall at the Florida State Fairgrounds in response to Blitzer's question.

    Paul disagreed with the audience on that front. "No," he responded, noting he practiced medicine before Medicaid when churches took care of medical costs--a comment that drew wide audience applause. "We never turned anybody away from the hospital."
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    Ron Paul really stands out as humane in that crew, doesn't he?
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    I've always thought of Ron Paul as humane.

    Just idealistic and misguided.

    And just why is he idealistic and misguided? Because many libertarians are like the jackasses cheering over people dying in the audience.

    Paul's ideas would work fantastically in an ideal world, just like Marxism.

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    Well regardless of what Paul thinks, whether that was a save or not I mean, the reaction of the audience was on the money, that is the dark beating heart of libertarianism. That is what its about. Its a vicious class struggle against some of the lamest and least able to defend themselves sorts there are.

    Now.

    Pass out the stakes so we can drive them through this dark heart and be damned well done with it.

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    Well regardless of what Paul thinks, whether that was a save or not I mean, the reaction of the audience was on the money, that is the dark beating heart of libertarianism. That is what its about. Its a vicious class struggle against some of the lamest and least able to defend themselves sorts there are.

    Now.

    Pass out the stakes so we can drive them through this dark heart and be damned well done with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Well regardless of what Paul thinks, whether that was a save or not I mean, the reaction of the audience was on the money, that is the dark beating heart of libertarianism. That is what its about. Its a vicious class struggle against some of the lamest and least able to defend themselves sorts there are.

    Now.

    Pass out the stakes so we can drive them through this dark heart and be damned well done with it.
    Not only that, but these people are romanticizing risk. It's ridiculous. I can only think someone has to be ENORMOUSLY sheltered to actually believe it will never touch them or someone they love, or that it won't cause the larger societal framework to begin to disintegrate.

    I tend to have a kind of "pat on the head" attitude toward the good-intentioned Ron Paulites. They're usually just idealistic like he is, and don't see that creating a society like that is about as smart as people thinking communism was a fantastic plan 100 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by article
    Paul disagreed with the audience on that front. "No," he responded, noting he practiced medicine before Medicaid when churches took care of medical costs--a comment that drew wide audience applause. "We never turned anybody away from the hospital."

    Paul voiced support for legalizing alternative health care and argued that the reason medical costs have skyrocketed is that individuals have stopped taking personal responsibility for their health care.
    Yeah really, it's not like being against socialized medicine means you're necessarily against giving medical care to the poor.

    Having watched the video, it sounds like only a few people are actually yelling "YEAH" to the question should the person be left to die.

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    Lark wut? Crawl back into your cave troll

    At the heart of libertarianism is to take responsibility for yourselves in your life and liberties and strengthen communital and local bonds precisely because the issues effect us locally, and it's not in your interest for governments to be at the front of these things, since it drives up the actual medical costs and puts that hypothetical person in the question in the position to have to choose between not having an insurance or paying for one. Why is it that industries where government have greatest control over, increase in price in a regular fashion, while the ones they're hands off about...decrease?
    Besides in a libertarian society, private charities would spring up in greater fashion, for economic and social reasons and the guy wouldn't need government to take care of himself. His social network would have greater money spend. Having that said, doctors don't turn people away from emergency rooms when life is threatened anyway. And if they did, it's insurance related and again the effect of domestic policy and special interest over the years.

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    Yep, cave men were free and had enormous liberty, too.

    People started living in agrarian societies as they evolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Not only that, but these people are romanticizing risk. It's ridiculous. I can only think someone has to be ENORMOUSLY sheltered to actually believe it will never touch them or someone they love, or that it won't cause the larger societal framework to begin to disintegrate.

    I tend to have a kind of "pat on the head" attitude toward the good-intentioned Ron Paulites. They're usually just idealistic like he is, and don't see that creating a society like that is about as smart as people thinking communism was a fantastic plan 100 years ago.
    There definitely are parallels with communism, definitely, the problem being that the cold war was seen as a vindication of capitalism and not simply an indicment of extremism or utopianism.

    It is a romanticisation of risk and they definitely dont see it negatively impinging on them or loved ones but lets be honest for the generation raised on zombi apocalypse, in many ways the most existentially anti-societal and anti-democratic variety of horror there is, what other message is there?

    I think that life is too sheltered for anyone who would want to see the social death that libertarianism involves play out, I mean why dont they just go to Somalia and see how its working for them instead?

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