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    One thing that I'd like to add about the Pope's new list is that it is too reactionary and topical to last more than fifty years.
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    spartan26, very nice!

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    It sounds more like he's just using the Seven Deadly Sin motif as a vehicle to address particular modern social ills that people might not consider if they're just immersed in the original, rather abstracted list. People swipe established patterns all the time as vehicles for ideas they want to promote, whether or not the vehicle 100% describes the contents.

    (Although it was humorous in the sense of leaving me feel like I was looking at the "Seven Wonders of the MODERN World" list when people forgot about all seven on the old list or didn't care anymore.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    So... for years we have had :

    Pride (Vanity) - Now there is nothing wrong with pride, but pride that gets in the way of one's belief in God or over shadows ones belief in God is what is meant here.

    Envy - An excessive jealousy of someone else's possessions, abilities, or attributes.

    Gluttony - This is basically eating too much. Eating more than your body needs to survive is considered gluttony.

    Lust - A more than healthy need to fulfill ones sexual appetites

    Anger (Wrath) - Spurn love and opt for fury.

    Greed - When the desire for wealth overrides the need for spiritualisation.

    Sloth - Those who avoid work both physically and spiritually.

    They are like old friends to some of us, I am sure...!

    Well, courtesy of the Pope, last month, we got another seven to add to the collection. All new sins that are believed to reflect the problems of the modern world. These are as follows :


    * Genetic Modification

    * Human Experimentation

    * Polluting the Environment

    * Social Injustice

    * Causing Poverty

    * Financial Gluttony

    * Taking Drugs

    So.. what do we think. Is this a good, helpful list? Would you remove or edit any? Is there any irony in the church listing financial gluttony a sin? (or is it the Pope calling the kettle black )

    What would your seven (or less... or more...) modern deadly sins be?
    Can you link where you read this please? I want to read the reasoning behind it because I'm Catholic haven't really heard much about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Five View Post
    Can you link where you read this please? I want to read the reasoning behind it because I'm Catholic haven't really heard much about it.
    The thread is eight months old, you might do better just web-searching yourself for it on Yahoo or Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    Thou shall not impose their religion on another.
    I'd rather have "Thou shalt not impose your morality on another".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    So... for years we have had :

    Pride (Vanity) - Now there is nothing wrong with pride, but pride that gets in the way of one's belief in God or over shadows ones belief in God is what is meant here.

    Envy - An excessive jealousy of someone else's possessions, abilities, or attributes.

    Gluttony - This is basically eating too much. Eating more than your body needs to survive is considered gluttony.

    Lust - A more than healthy need to fulfill ones sexual appetites

    Anger (Wrath) - Spurn love and opt for fury.

    Greed - When the desire for wealth overrides the need for spiritualisation.

    Sloth - Those who avoid work both physically and spiritually.

    They are like old friends to some of us, I am sure...!

    Well, courtesy of the Pope, last month, we got another seven to add to the collection. All new sins that are believed to reflect the problems of the modern world. These are as follows :


    * Genetic Modification

    * Human Experimentation

    * Polluting the Environment

    * Social Injustice

    * Causing Poverty

    * Financial Gluttony

    * Taking Drugs

    So.. what do we think. Is this a good, helpful list? Would you remove or edit any? Is there any irony in the church listing financial gluttony a sin? (or is it the Pope calling the kettle black )

    What would your seven (or less... or more...) modern deadly sins be?
    I'd probably only leave "Sloth" and remove everything else.

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    OK so i read a little bit about the seven "new deadly sins" and realized why I hadn't heard about them. It's because the Catholic Church does not say they are "new seven deadly sins." In fact, they are not deadly sins at all. Let me explain.
    The Church holds that there are mortal sins and venial sins, mortal are more severe and venial are lesser. These are specific actions like murder, theft, prostitution. The deadly sins are of a different nature. You don't commit a deadly sin or confess it during reconciliation, instead these are the things that the Church believes lead people to commit the mortal and venial sins. This is the reason for the vague words--you don't commit sloth, you do (or fail to do) something because of sloth. Notice that the so called new sins are much more specific than the seven deadly sins. This was a media slip.

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