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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    Typical liberal.... As soon as they begin losing the argument they resort to name-calling. Why don't you come at me with facts and logic instead of acting like a 12 year old girl who lost her ipad and then wants to blame me for it, even though I was sitting across from her on the bus and the guy next to her was obviously more homeless looking than I am?
    Are you trolling? Because YOU'RE THE ONE who said you'd put people like him on a list for torture subjects.

    Either you're drunk, stupid, or this is your idea of ha ha.

    This is also why I realized I should not even go near this thread after my first post or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    Typical liberal.... As soon as they begin losing the argument they resort to name-calling.


    There's an argument? If there is one, I certainly haven't lost anything. CriticalHit's sources are certainly more comprehensive than anything you've added to the conversation. The facts are pretty plain -- even if you wipe aside the moral considerations (and I don't), torture is not an effective method for gathering accurate and useful information. McGuffin's quote of John McCain (who doubtless knows a bit about the issue) is completely correct in the sense that sinking to the level of those who would stoop to such tactics demeans us. And I will absolutely stand by labeling anyone as a "monster" who believes in torturing people who simply disagree -- be it with me or anyone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    Why don't you come at me with facts and logic instead of acting like a 12 year old girl who lost her ipad and then wants to blame me for it, even though I was sitting across from her on the bus and the guy next to her was obviously more homeless looking than I am?
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    Can anyone name the good things under George W. Bush's presidency?

    I can:

    1) Increased aid and trade to Africa
    2) Funded more against the global fight against AIDS (esp. in Africa again)
    3) Prescription coverage under Medicare (socialist!)
    4) Took apart Al-Qaida, making it a shadow of what it once was
    5) Prevented any further terrorist attacks after 9-11

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    Obviously I'm just waisting my time here. Hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Can anyone name the good things under George W. Bush's presidency?

    I can:

    1) Increased aid and trade to Africa
    2) Funded more against the global fight against AIDS (esp. in Africa again)
    3) Prescription coverage under Medicare (socialist!)
    This is why I still respect Republicans more than anarcho-capitalists.

    Still think Eisenhower and Reagan are better example of decent Republican presidents.

    When Bush left office he had the lowest approval rating since Carter. Good job, Bush, good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Can anyone name the good things under George W. Bush's presidency?

    I can:

    1) Increased aid and trade to Africa
    2) Funded more against the global fight against AIDS (esp. in Africa again)
    3) Prescription coverage under Medicare (socialist!)
    4) Took apart Al-Qaida, making it a shadow of what it once was
    5) Prevented any further terrorist attacks after 9-11

    Those are all really great things.

    What was the cost of all that again?

    Oh yeah, thousands of lives, trillions of dollars, a f@$&ed economy, and the freedom and dignity of millions of Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    Those are all really great things.

    What was the cost of all that again?

    Oh yeah, thousands of lives, trillions of dollars, a f@$&ed economy, and the freedom and dignity of millions of Americans.
    Not quite. I left off Iraq, lack of financial oversight, unbalanced budgets, unwise tax cuts, use of torture, 9-11, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Not quite. I left off Iraq, lack of financial oversight, unbalanced budgets, unwise tax cuts, use of torture, 9-11, etc.
    I got some poor grades in accounting.

    Do you count the Iraq war (all the money and deaths) as a cost for ending terrorist threats when it didn't actually help that, but the implied purpose was to end terror?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater View Post
    I got some poor grades in accounting.

    Do you count the Iraq war (all the money and deaths) as a cost for ending terrorist threats when it didn't actually help that, but the implied purpose was to end terror?
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    Typical liberal.... As soon as they begin losing the argument they resort to name-calling. Why don't you come at me with facts and logic instead of acting like a 12 year old girl who lost her ipad and then wants to blame me for it, even though I was sitting across from her on the bus and the guy next to her was obviously more homeless looking than I am?
    LOL you're full of shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGERdeMAIN View Post
    Do you have any more of those NWO brainwashing links? You're just another Illuminati puppet....Geneva Convention is part of the plan to keep the USA from realizing it's full potential, I'm going to guess that you're European, white and you consider televised propaganda the "news". It's not even worth arguing with you about. I would put people like you on the list of approved torture subjects.
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