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  • Should be given

    158 92.94%
  • Should not be given

    9 5.29%
  • Could tolerate gay couples, but can't tolerate gay marriages

    9 5.29%
  • Can't tolerate gay marriages or couples

    3 1.76%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    I AM A LIBERTARIAN! (left-leaning anyway)
    in what way do you lean left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    in what way do you lean left?
    Liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Liberal.
    could you be more specific? on the political spectrum, left implies
    - high taxation of business
    - from each according to his ability, to each according to his need
    - altruistic tendencies
    - the needs of the common people above the well off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Right now couples who are married get legal privileges that unmarried couples don't. If you cut the law out of marriage, how would you address that? Would those privileges now be open to anyone? Would they be open to no one? What?
    That thing have ever been discussed on the thread: we can favor couples union with legal and fiscal privilege, like with the PACS in France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacte_c...olidarit%C3%A9) but gay marriage is bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Like Magic says, there are some legal aspects to marriage (such as rights to visit in a hospital, rights for property ownership, etc.) that would have to be determined in any case. Marriage was used as the easiest vehicle to which to attach those rights to.
    I'm not convinced of this argument at all. Why not close friends etc...
    Perhaps we inherited these rights de-facto due to our religious heritage?

    All laws have unintended effects and we have to consider how existing laws affect behaviour both positively and negatively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catbert View Post
    I'm not convinced of this argument at all. Why not close friends etc...
    Well, that would be a total nightmare to try to enforce, and current legal processes typically focuses on family already (which is quantifiable -- you are either related via marriage, bloodline, or other legal declaration), so it's just a continuation of precedence. The "friend" circle is incredibly fluid, and anyone can claim to be a "close friend" if the person is indisposed; would the "close friend" have to be legally validated, to have value as a concept?

    I'd like to see someone come up with a plan for how that would work with "close friends".

    Perhaps we inherited these rights de-facto due to our religious heritage?
    To me, the most obvious origin is "practicality."
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    I think gay marriage is a discrimination. I mean, why allow two men to be officially married, and not three men to be officially marry each others? What an injustice!

    And what about three women? Or even three women and two men who live in the same house, fuck together and adopt children and then have three mom and two dad? I think we MUST call that a marriage and that it's an unbearable injustice if we can't. So come on! Fight the Power! FIGHT THE POWER!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I think gay marriage is a discrimination. I mean, why allow two men to be officially married, and not three men to be officially marry each others? What an injustice!

    And what about three women? Or even three women and two men who live in the same house, fuck together and adopt children and then have three mom and two dad? I think we MUST call that a marriage and that it's an unbearable injustice if we can't. So come on! Fight the Power! FIGHT THE POWER!


    "says the anarchist"

    OMG

    Why restrict marriage to adults only? And why exclude animals? And inanimate objects? I might really, REALLY love my new BMW and want to marry it! Bunch of fascists try to tell me who I can and cannot marry.



    While I can understand the sentiment I hope when and if it comes time to vote for gay marriage inclusion (and you actually vote) that you would vote FOR it and not against it. A vote against gay marriage doesn't = a vote for expanding the definition of marriage or the eradicating of marriage. In fact, a vote against gay marriage just reifies marriage as being a sanctified and unbreakable and narrow institution involving only 1 man and 1 woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I think gay marriage is a discrimination. I mean, why allow two men to be officially married, and not three men to be officially marry each others? What an injustice!

    And what about three women? Or even three women and two men who live in the same house, fuck together and adopt children and then have three mom and two dad? I think we MUST call that a marriage and that it's an unbearable injustice if we can't. So come on! Fight the Power! FIGHT THE POWER!
    That "slippery slope" argument's pretty versatile, isn't it?

    So when do you project that five-people marriages will become an accepted social norm once gay marriage is accepted? (And do you ever think turtle-dog marriage will become a reality?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    "says the anarchist"

    OMG

    Why restrict marriage to adults only? And why exclude animals? And inanimate objects? I might really, REALLY love my new BMW and want to marry it! Bunch of fascists try to tell me who I can and cannot marry.


    I'm totally agree with that, but as an anarchist, I think there's a difference between tolerate alternatives form of sexuality and officialize it as normal
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