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  • Should be given

    158 92.94%
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    9 5.29%
  • Could tolerate gay couples, but can't tolerate gay marriages

    9 5.29%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I think that's fair if there is no such thing as "legal marriage" and both opposite-gender and same-gender couples are granted civil unions with the same rights.
    No. Heterosexual marriage has always exist and is perfectly legitimate, there's no reason to see it collapse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    And we pity you.
    +1 It’s pretty sad when the act of even comparing oneself to Don Quixote is in itself a delusion of grandeur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    This doesn't explain anything, is irrational and steeped in belief,
    No. It's perfectly rational and was created to answer to practical needs. There's no practical need to see gays married, for the reasons explained. It's not a beilief, it's a fact.


    Either marriage includes willing and wanting breeders or it encompasses all consenting human adults.
    Actually, marriage often include non-consentant children, proof that consenting-human-adults-union is not what marriage is about.

    Restating your beliefs isn't a valid argument. Btw, where did your beliefs come from?
    It's not belief, but facts that you were aware of if you knew what a marriage truly is.

    The discrimination is not having the same laws for all people.
    We have the same law for all people: an heterosexual man can marry with a woman, and an homosexual man can marry with a woman too.

    This is the definition of legal discrimination.
    As i proved, there's not discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Because marriage is not only about unify two people, but to unify two family and recognise the couple's children as natural children. Gays can't have natural children, so gay marriage is a non-sense. Plus, if we allow two men to be married, why not allow three men? The argument "it's a discrimination to not allow..." is endless. I don't mind if three men and two men live in the same house, fuck together and adopt children, but at the same time, a society need some landmark, and one of thoses landmark is that we can't call such type of union as marriage.
    Is it really about unifying families? Why does it matter if they can't have natural children? Does that mean Bradjolie doesn't count for much? I mean, they have a few adopted children. And what about infertile families?

    Two men loving each other is far more common than three men. Yes, a line has to be drawn. But what is to stop two men from marrying one woman? I think that the argument is faulty through and through.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    No. Heterosexual marriage has always exist and is perfectly legitimate, there's no reason to see it collapse.
    And I don't think we are discussing the collapse of heterosexual marriages. Believe me, I am all for it.
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    When did the Euros become the uptight narrow-minded side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    Is it really about unifying families? Why does it matter if they can't have natural children?
    It matters because marriage unify family and recognise the children as member of the generation chain. What truly need homosexuasl, is a derogation wich recognise them as legal responsible of the children they adopt.

    Does that mean Bradjolie doesn't count for much? I mean, they have a few adopted children.
    You can adopt children even if you're not married. But if Angelina was not married with Brad when she had Knox and Vivienne, nothing would have force him to recognise them as his natural children, this is why marriage have been created and of course, gays are not concerned by this.

    Speaking about Brad and Angelina, I remember that they declared in press, the year they've been married, that if they were so impatient to be married, it was in part because they were afraid that gay marriage be legalized before they take their decision. And that remember us that the legalisation of marriage is a damage inflict to straight because it devoy the institution of marriage and alter the meaning of their union.

    And what about infertile families?
    Infertile families are a deficiency tolerate by the system.

    Two men loving each other is far more common than three men. Yes, a line has to be drawn. But what is to stop two men from marrying one woman?
    Polyandry is a different thing because it is a straight marriage after all. There's people who live in ménage à trois, that's a fact.


    And I don't think we are discussing the collapse of heterosexual marriages. Believe me, I am all for it.
    Cool. I did'nt say that to you actually, but to Jennifer who seemed to sugest it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    When did the Euros become the uptight narrow-minded side?
    I narrow-minded and uptight someone who is not agree with you. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    I narrow-minded and uptight someone who is not agree with you. Interesting.
    Wrong, that's the classic narrow-minded defensive tactic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Wrong, that's the classic narrow-minded defensive tactic though.
    Because it's the only one thing to answer to such a stupid thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Because it's the only one thing to answer to such a stupid thing.
    It's true, narrow-mindedness has little defense.

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