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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    Personally, I think people who find that stuff appealing need extreme psychological help, and need to be locked up, forever. Because it puts the lives of generations of kids in peril, absolute peril, if they start this chain of events. And what is going to happen to the kids that these events were done to? They are going to be troubled, and may turn into the same predators.

    [add]: WHAT THE FUCK?!? http://globalnation.inquirer.net/821...-fetish-couple
    You should have put a spoiler alert, I really didn't want to see the news article picture that accompanied that article.

    Apparently animal torture videos are not that uncommon, especially overseas where I think tracking and policing them are harder and there isn't as strong 'animal rights' presence.

    The couple should get a heavy prison sentence as a warning to others like them. Those girls are gonna be fucked up if they weren't already and need lots of counseling and unfortunately are likely to abuse animals and others in the future. It's similar to how adults create child soldiers to rape and kill. For some reason legal systems around the world are unable to differentiate between puppets and puppet masters. Even in the states there was a bizarre and horrific case of a whole family that was being abused and exploited by the husband/father but he got the lightest sentence and it was the women who were abused by him that got the heaviest sentences for in turn abusing their children (which the male was actually ordering). The exploitation on exploitation...dear god.

    I don't want to read the OP article right now. I'm glad they busted everyone involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    I have been fairly fascinated with the whole 'violent offender - porn' connection. In one of Ted Bundys last interviews he professed that porn addiction is what drove him over the line. He was never abused, had normal brothers and sisters, a nice moderately religious family, etc. But I just don't buy it. Porn doesn't create the monster.. the monster seeks out porn.
    Maybe it was a different serial killer? The bolded sentence would not be true at all for Bundy. His grandfather was an overly domineering and abusive individual. The person who Bundy thought was his sister was actually his mother. It's speculated that Bundy's father may have actually been his OWN maternal grandfather. Very fucked up family dynamics to be honest. The major stressors that most likely got Bundy killing was that he found out about the family secrets and his girlfriend broke up with him but porn probably did not help.

    I got the info from wiki but I also remember it from a Biography documentary.

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    They most likely had issues way before getting into child porn (not necessarily child abuse but a possible predisposition toward pedophilia). Here's a prevalent theory in the abnormal psychology community: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diathesis–stress_model

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    Maybe it was a different serial killer? The bolded sentence would not be true at all for Bundy. His grandfather was an overly domineering and abusive individual. The person who Bundy thought was his sister was actually his mother. It's speculated that Bundy's father may have actually been his OWN maternal grandfather. Very fucked up family dynamics to be honest. The major stressors that most likely got Bundy killing was that he found out about the family secrets and his girlfriend broke up with him but porn probably did not help.

    I got the info from wiki but I also remember it from a Biography documentary.
    Well, I suppose I should clarify that normal healthy family is subjective. I have read the following about Bundy, but when you look at his own interview, out of his own mouth, he apparently did not see his family as having any bearing on his monstrous self. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdGlozLQ7g

    and I just want to add that I think saying he had a domineering father/grandfather or confusion about lineage seems grasping at the environmental factor. I highly doubt Bundy kept a tackle box of nipples because of these reasons.
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    Eh, for every board they take down another nine get put up. For every one person uploading it there's nine being smart about it. I wish I could be like 'yay' but the issue runs far deeper than anyone even wants to believe. There needs to be more stress and security placed on the outside world in regards those holding authoritive positions over groups of children. You'd be surprised at the amount of pedophiles who aren't actually attracted to children but are sexually frustrated at the time and take it out on a child because they're in a position that allows them to get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncommonentity View Post
    Eh, for every board they take down another nine get put up. For every one person uploading it there's nine being smart about it. I wish I could be like 'yay' but the issue runs far deeper than anyone even wants to believe.
    Maybe Anonymous can do something besides hack into PayPal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncommonentity View Post
    Eh, for every board they take down another nine get put up. For every one person uploading it there's nine being smart about it. I wish I could be like 'yay' but the issue runs far deeper than anyone even wants to believe. There needs to be more stress and security placed on the outside world in regards those holding authoritive positions over groups of children. You'd be surprised at the amount of pedophiles who aren't actually attracted to children but are sexually frustrated at the time and take it out on a child because they're in a position that allows them to get away with it.
    So... they're not pedophiles, are they? Rather, they'd be child abusers, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    So... they're not pedophiles, are they? Rather, they'd be child abusers, I think.
    Indeed, my bad. It'll also depend on if you think sexual attraction is required to maintain an errection. There's a thin line between the two terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    Well, I suppose I should clarify that normal healthy family is subjective. I have read the following about Bundy, but when you look at his own interview, out of his own mouth, he apparently did not see his family as having any bearing on his monstrous self. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdGlozLQ7g

    and I just want to add that I think saying he had a domineering father/grandfather or confusion about lineage seems grasping at the environmental factor. I highly doubt Bundy kept a tackle box of nipples because of these reasons.
    ahhhh, the problem here was that we were talking about two different time frames. His earlier childhood with his maternal grandparents seemed pretty screwed up (according to other family members and sometimes Bundy, himself) but his later years when he and his mother moved away with a adoptive father were relatively normal. If anything, I bet he inherited a lot of his mental issues from his maternal side. We were both right.

    Anyways, I don't buy that porn excuse either.

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