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    I think they may have meant a specific addiction to porn, not that if you view it, you must be addicted.

    Oh, and that was a terribly reported story.
    Excuse me, but does this smell like chloroform to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    I think they may have meant a specific addiction to porn, not that if you view it, you must be addicted.

    Oh, and that was a terribly reported story.
    The fact that they say plainly it is a fast-moving spiral and that many viewers know they can't stop until someone stops them indicates there is little variability in the outcome upon its viewing. Even if it wasn't the reporter's intention, their poor wording implies that is the authoritative POV. What unhelpful rubbish.

    (@Nijntje, we need your reporting skills sooner rather than later please. Go go journalism degree!)
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    My guess is words like fast-moving spiral are more intended for effect than to put out the truth. Yay fancy writing.
    Excuse me, but does this smell like chloroform to you?

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    yeah.... about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    My guess is words like fast-moving spiral are more intended for effect than to put out the truth. Yay fancy writing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    yeah.... about that.
    OMFG yes. Just like when people who knew these criminals decide to take money in exchange for "pertinent (*coughs*) quotes" are not merely contributing to the story, they are "BREAKING THEIR SILENCE."

    /eyeroll
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    This makes me not want to do journalism
    Excuse me, but does this smell like chloroform to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iwakar View Post
    Uhhh...
    Viewing pornography is not done just by sex addicts and it does not mean that you will spiral into pedophilia because you're trying to "up the ante" sexually.

    AND WTF KIND OF ADVICE IS THAT FOR SEX ADDICTS A.K.A. POTENTIAL PEDOPHILES??? How about skip the McAfee and seek professional help?!
    It doesn't happen to every sex addict by any means, but it's not that uncommon either. The nature of sex addiction at it's worst, is to require stimuli that is often not even a preferential sexual interest to the sex addict.

    Pedophiles that molest children are often seen as behaving in a very similar and compulsive manner as sex addicts. (escalation and frequency of the acts etc.) Not all sex addicts indulge in pedophilia, but it seems many pedophiles that are actively touching children are sex addicts.



    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    My understanding is that these people are beyond psychological help, really. They can be constrained for life, or at worst, executed.

    I don't advocate torturing them, though. That isn't going to improve anything.
    I agree.

    I hesitate to call it a sexual orientation, but it seems like it is. Whether it's nature or nurture, there's nothing that will change it. It's best for society to have these people put away or down. There's no rehabilitation for these folks.

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    I have been fairly fascinated with the whole 'violent offender - porn' connection. In one of Ted Bundys last interviews he professed that porn addiction is what drove him over the line. He was never abused, had normal brothers and sisters, a nice moderately religious family, etc. But I just don't buy it. Porn doesn't create the monster.. the monster seeks out porn.

    This will prolly sound really disturbing, and is not intended to say that one offense is worse or better than another, but I belive there IS a difference between non-violant sexual deviants and violant ones. Violent offenders, be it sexually or non-sexually, towards child, adult, or animal.. all seem to have one thing in common, and that is "Zero Empathy" .. or an inability to understand what one is thinking or feeling and respond to it with appropriate emotion.

    Simon Baron-Cohen, a professor of developmental psycho pathology at cambridge has been doing some interesting studies on empathy. He breaks EQ into a range of 6, with zero being no empathy, 6 being excess empathy (these are like your mirror-touch synaesthesia people, etc.) but at the zero empathy level he created 2 addition categories.. you've got your zero positives and zero negatives. Zero positives are things like autism and aspergers.. but no real danger found in this group as they are drawn to patterns, regularity, and general rule abiding. Zero negatives however, are your borderline, anti social and narcissitic disorders. Capeable of inflicting great physical and psychological harm on others, with out any emotional connectivity back.

    Now, here is where it gets interesting... in a 10 year study that he has done.. he has found that the more testosterone a foetus generates in the womb, the less empathy a child will have post- natally. There is a clear hormonal link to the developing empathy circuits.

    Haven't you ever found it strange that statistically, if a male is sexually abused the odds of him repeating the pattern are MUCH higher than that of a female that was abused? Same goes for all sociopathic, violent crimes.

    They have also found 4 genes associated with empathy. One sex sterroid gene, one gene related to social-emotional behavior, and two associated with nueral growth.

    This isn't to say that nurture and environment don't play a part. They've proven that if babies are unable to develop a strong bond with some type of caregiver, they are at a higher risk of delinquincy and personality disorders.

    They've also got FMRI's that can reveal low nuerological activity in the empathy regions.

    Can you imagine the possibilities if science can find a way to genetically ensure empathy? Wow.. that would be a whole different thread on its own.. but really.. an uber interesting idea imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    Simon Baron-Cohen
    this name is distracting.
    all i can think of is Sacha Baron Cohen.
    i read your post in Borat's accent.
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    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
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    holy hell, they're some poorly researched and poorly worded articles.

    If i handed something like that up, i'd get a fail grade.


    And yes. Child molesters get the worst treatment in prison, most of the time they have to be kept separate from the main population, as most inmates have children and do not take kindly to people who would harm them, this also applies for murders (child) and mothers who kill their kids. In prison here, male inmates who sexually abuse kids are called 'Rock Spiders', and funnily enough a prison tattoo identifying them was a spiderweb on the elbow.

    This is why you should always research your tatts, kids.

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    Consequentially, I am not one of the good people.
    I am one of the terrible things.
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