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    You know y'all are being monitored on some FBI watch list now for commenting on Anonymous.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    You know y'all are being monitored on some FBI watch list now for commenting on Anonymous.



    I've been on a number of different tracking lists for years.

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    Annonymous will be classified as a terrorist network when the military is ready to put the ndaa to use.
    1+1=3 OMFG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
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    OMG! CAN U SEE IT TOO? THE CIA RUNS ANONYMOUS! THAT"S WHY THEYRE MAKING THEIR PLAY NOW!

    ANONYMOUS MAKES SOPA COME TRUE!

    Those clever bastards.
    precisly
    1+1=3 OMFG

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsWhatHeSaid View Post
    You're right. The DDOS attacks are retarded and pointless unless, of course, they were kept up to keep sites offline for weeks (which would be much much much more effective). But recently they stole credit card numbers. They made donations to charities, but still... (1) more than DDOS (2) susceptible to abuse and (3) kinda fucked up, depending on who the victims were.
    Indeed. These Anons hacked my Stratfor account 1 week after I created it. WTF do they want my credit card number for? Does my unemployed status qualify me as a wealthy elite?
    "The purpose of life is to be defeated by greater and greater things." - Rainer Maria Rilke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    I know a lot of tech guys in Ireland who run security for smaller online business, including government offices like citizens advice, and they have told me that anonymous amounts to a lot of kid hackers uploading viruses and logic bombs created by and provided by someone else, it only inconveniences and bothers marginal or peripheral businesses.

    I dont know about anyone else but that sort of arrangment just sounds like they're a bunch of tools, it would be far, far too easy in an arrangment like that for the whole supposed resistance to be some intelligence agency's proxy, or if its not a proxy for it to be infiltrated and turned into one. Like the phony resistance in Orwell's 1984.

    I see all that and most of the uprisings around the world, including Russia presently and the Arab uprisings, to be forms of geo-political economic warfare between elites of the obscenely rich. There's not a movement alive which hasnt been, couldnt be or wont be co-opted knowingly or unknowingly.
    You make it sound more sinister than it really is.

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    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    You know y'all are being monitored on some FBI watch list now for commenting on Anonymous.



    You are too O.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rail Tracer View Post
    You are too O.-
    BLAST!!!!

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    Anonymous and the War Over the Internet

    In the chat network where Anonymous coordinated the attacks, the virtual warriors declared victory with a military phrase: "TANGO DOWN."

    Part war, part game. Given the culture of the Internet, it's reasonable to assume that many of those who responded to Anonymous' call were teenagers. The software used to fire these Internet missiles was the Low Orbit Ion Cannon, a name lifted from the video game "Command & Conquer."
    Quotes profiling a top Anon; Xyzzy's ascent through Anonymous--

    Some anons talked about the Internet as their homeland. For Xyzzy, the Internet had literally given him a home. In 2008, he said, the Secret Service pulled him out of a classroom at school after he played a little joke on the government by spamming a .gov website with "KILL OBAMA" rants. ("Not a good idea," he reflected.) His parents kicked him out of the house, and some friends in Anonymous took him in. He considered one of them his "Internet mom" and said he thought of her as "kinda better" than his real mom.

    He said he was about 12 or 13 when he discovered the Internet, and couldn’t really remember what life was like before that. "I wasn't anything," he wrote. "I was just a nerd who never really spoke up."

    The Internet gave him balls. And a mouth. In the chat rooms where he hung out he learned how to mock people and later found he could use this skill "irl",
    where he went from "never talking in school to making fun of everyone who picked on me for being nerdy."

    He also learned how to "socially engineer" people -- manipulate them. Often, he said, that meant calling an email provider and tricking the friendly lady who answered the phone into handing over a password to someone's account, enabling him to break in, steal the person's credit-card number and sell it.

    And he learned how to "troll." At the time, if you didn't troll you weren't really an anon. Trolling is the art of deliberately irritating people until they flip out or otherwise react in a way that generates laughs, or "lulz." It is the bedrock of Anonymous culture, and in the early 2000s there were dozens of "trolling gangs" roaming the back alleys of the Internet.

    Xyzzy wanted me to understand that they pretty much established the Anonymous mindset. He stressed that when Anonymous started, it was made up "jerks," and he meant this as a compliment. And he was especially insistent that I appreciate the historical significance of one group of jerks in particular, the Penis Pumpers For Lyfe.
    Xyzzy told me he and another anon once trolled someone at an antiwar rally in Boston. In an indication of how much Anonymous has evolved since then, he said they attended the rally not to join the protest but to screw with the protesters. Xyzzy told his friend he bet he could "troll out" the first guy he saw who was obviously there just to pick up girls.

    "So we got near the guy and the guy makes the first move," wrote Xyzzy. "He rants at us about peace and I tell him, 'Look, dude, I don't give a fuck.' He jumps on me about how I'm the problem with the world today."

    "And I just turn it on him," Xyzzy continued. "How HE is the problem with the world today cause he can't leave people alone and needs to stick his retarded nose in other people's business. He clearly is upset so I keep at it saying how he doesn't know the first thing about what it means to stand up for what you believe in. And he responds with how he'll show me how he stands up for what he believes in."

    At this point in the story, Xyzzy paused to note that while he is under 6 feet tall and "a fat kid," his target stood about 6-foot-4 and looked like he worked out. Xyzzy was not to be intimidated, however. On the Internet, he had learned he could use his wit to humiliate pretty much anyone. Years after the protest, the typical Anonymous trolling target would be the government-corporate matrix, not just some bro at a peace rally. Whatever. Xyzzy isn't picky. He's happy as long as he's having a laugh. By the time he'd finished with the bro at the peace rally, the bro was in police custody.
    Trolling targets with no links to big government or big business

    Sometimes the jokes went to harsh extremes, and that hasn't changed. In 2010, an 11-year-old girl nicknamed Jessi Slaughter issued a YouTube threat against "haters" who had started an Internet rumor about her. She said she'd "pop a Glock in your mouth and make a brain slushy." As a Gawker account put it, "Ha ha."

    Unfortunately, as Gawker went on to note, the response went beyond "ha ha." People found her real name, address and phone number. They passed the information around. A bomb squad showed up to her school after a suspicious package arrived in the mail. Encyclopaedia Dramatica, a website that chronicles the lore and pranks of the Internet in the fuck-you-it's-funny style of the Internet itself, published an item on how to troll her. "Tell her dad that we are going to beat her up." "Tell her to kill herself."

    Jessi responded with another video. In this one, she was seen crying and whimpering while her father crouched in the background, screaming at the camera and shaking his fist. His awkward threats would become memes. A year later, he was arrested for punching Jessi in the mouth, and six months after that, she posted a video saying she'd been institutionalized and was living in foster care. Last summer, her mother wrote on Facebook that the father had died of a massive heart attack. Someone posted a screenshot of the message on FunnyJunk.com.

    Obviously there isn’t anything political about relentlessly picking on an 11-year-old, but Anonymous has used many of the same schoolyard tactics to pick on much more powerful adversaries.
    At its most basic level, trolling is about humiliating people who seem to take themselves too seriously or pretend to be something they're not: 11-year-old girls, corporate executives, whoever. The troll jabs at them until they jab back, exposing their vulnerabilities, then jabs at those weak spots until they do something rash and truly embarrass themselves.
    Mixed messages and agendas

    Broadly speaking, there are two kinds of anons: those who want to change the world and those who are in it only for the lulz. Xyzzy moved closer to the first group over time, but he remains a lulz man at heart. One of his friends, however, appeared to have transformed himself completely, leaving behind a trail of self-serving crimes. He was part of a group of anons whose elevated stature in the community had earned them the derisive label "leaderfags," and when Xyzzy met them they convened in their own private channel, from which they exerted a certain amount of influence over the rest of Anonymous. Exactly how much influence is debatable, but Xyzzy, for one, called them the "Illuminati of the Internet" and described his friend, with perhaps just a touch of hyperbole, as "the Godfather."
    When I asked Xyzzy about Chanology, he said he initially snickered at the idea: "From what I gathered from the Internet it was just a hug box and people wanting to be important." In fact, many anons downright hated it. They mocked the protesters as "moralfags," and it wasn't the "fag" part that was meant to be derogatory. In Anonymous lingo, "fag" is basically the equivalent of "dude."

    A conflict was brewing -- moralfags vs. lulzfags -- and over lunch one day in Boston I asked Housh which side had prevailed.
    Will either side ultimately win out? And do we want that happening?
    "The purpose of life is to be defeated by greater and greater things." - Rainer Maria Rilke

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    So we should or shouldn't take these people seriously? From the little I've heard/know, it's just child's play.

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