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    With or without a helmet, you're gonna get fucked up riding a motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenaphor View Post
    Scrambled egg waiver/indemnity where those who choose not to wear a helmut, no heir, family member or themselves, can sue anyone else for accidental death or serious head injuries. Also, brain trauma must be paid for out of personal pocket and the non-helmut wearer's estate or him/her personally, can be sued for emotional trauma of death or scrambled egg injury.
    I think this is the best idea I've read in here so far.
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    Well, I think that if you're going to travel without a helmet you've got to automatically wave all rights to welfare benefits or other tax funded compensation resulting from accidents with a head injury, disability or death as a consequence.

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    If the citizen is covered by govt healthcare, then I can see how helment law is justified - namely, a penalty for being reckless with taxpayers' money. In fact, since people cannot be turned away from an ER, having no insurance means somebody else will get stuck with the bill for your wanton behavior.

    So the most equitable way to address this would be that if a person gets pulled over for riding without a helmet but shows proof of private health insurance, then he shouldn't get a ticket. Otherwise it is justified.
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    Private healthcare insurance is no different than public, in that the group pays for everyone else since the insurance company amends rates to offset any costs. The way to avoid paying for people who refuse to wear helmuts would be for certain insurers to refuse to provide insurance to those who refuse to wear a helmut.

    It also doesn't take into consideration any emotional trauma suffered by the causing of accidental death, by the vehicle who hits the motorcyclist.

    Now to flip that around, everyone who drives, pays for motorcyclists in general (helmut or not) where riding these vehicles poses greater danger. So, where should the line be drawn for risky behaviour? Perhaps a separate insurance pool for motocyclists where premiums are substantial enough to self-support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    If the citizen is covered by govt healthcare, then I can see how helment law is justified - namely, a penalty for being reckless with taxpayers' money. In fact, since people cannot be turned away from an ER, having no insurance means somebody else will get stuck with the bill for your wanton behavior.

    So the most equitable way to address this would be that if a person gets pulled over for riding without a helmet but shows proof of private health insurance, then he shouldn't get a ticket. Otherwise it is justified.
    Only if the fag is insured by a company that only insures fags who don't wear helmets.
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    Druken twats who decide to ride their bikes helmet less , is one of the reasons why I have to pull myself out of bed at 3am and crossmatch blood for them, because they managed to scalp themselves on a pavement.
    I at that point, really don't give a rat's ass for individual freedom. My motives are selfish. Wear a helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalViolet View Post
    Druken twats who decide to ride their bikes helmet less , is one of the reasons why I have to pull myself out of bed at 3am and crossmatch blood for them, because they managed to scalp themselves on a pavement.
    I at that point, really don't give a rat's ass for individual freedom. My motives are selfish. Wear a helmet.
    Have you considered rubbing your taint on their wounds out of spite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Have you considered rubbing your taint on their wounds out of spite?
    That would be completely unethical.
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