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    for the same reasons it started. now its hard to use the same old excuses, so dunno what are the excuses for it now
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    Oz is fighting in the Middle East for one simple reason.

    For the last 100 years we are the one and only country in the entire world that has supported the USA in every major USA conflict.

    As a result we have three treaties with the USA - a mlitary treaty, a land treaty and an economic treaty.

    The military treaty provides us with access to the very highest level of USA intelligence, and this is invaluable to us.

    The land treaty is the most successful land treaty in the world.

    And the economic treaty helps us compete in world markets.

    And so we will fight alongside the USA as long as they are in the Middle East. However we see the USA is leaving the Middle East, and as the USA leaves, so will we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    It's a cultural thing. We all have our quirks.
    So the losing is all in the mind? Because the Americans have definitely lost wars on paper.

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    I'm not sure what wars the US has lost, even Vietnam wasnt totally a loss, the US destroyed all possibility of that nation ever being an example of anything other than a piece of scorched earth and the entire conflict provided a testing ground for US military research and development, that's before you even begin to speculate about the "social policy" dimension of the war, sending all the "seditious or subversive" elements out into the world as cannon fodder.

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    it's not surprising if you consider the difference between what the public is aware of and what the US military leadership is actually dealing with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Oz is fighting in the Middle East for one simple reason.
    Is the Oz thing common in Australia? I think I've seen you do that a few times.
    Does he want a pillow for his head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Architectonic View Post
    So the losing is all in the mind? Because the Americans have definitely lost wars on paper.
    Well, the loss in Vietnam would be no worse than the loss here. The USA will stand and no civilians will die at home (discounting anything terrorist-y, which is kind of a horse of different color to me). I'm not supporting the war, but what will happen if we pull out here doesn't seem so different from Vietnam. A government the US dislikes (and with less significant global power back-up) controls the foreign country, and with far less military deaths.
    Does he want a pillow for his head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    Is the Oz thing common in Australia? I think I've seen you do that a few times.
    We are fond of the affectionate diminutive. So 'Oz' is the affectionate diminutive for Australia. And we apply the affectionate diminutive to everything, all the time, all except the words 'affectionate diminutive'.

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    The word is 'China'.

    We have received the word, and the word is 'China'. Our attention is to be directed away from the Middle East and towards China. And to this end we are to share our military bases on Australian soil with our major ally.

    So the war in Afganistan is effectively over and we are girding our loins to confront China in the South China Sea.

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    You're still fighting there to service the militairy industrial complex, that is all.

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