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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What about all those poor alto moms with flat chests and small butts out there?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT View Post
    You didn't answer why those qualities you listed are masculine as opposed to feminine (or any other category), unless you're saying that they are masculine traits because men are more likely to portray them. In that case, you are equating masculine with behaving like a male. And since our behavior can be influenced and directed by outside sources, we can come to resemble whatever form we're pushed/pulled into.

    The reason gender is a social construct is because different people (societies) can group different behavioral traits together, so the meaning and classification of specific genders change culturally. Hence a "social construct".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    correlation does not equal causation
    Not sure that applies between a term and a colllection of traits, but even if it does, considering that is how it's defined, I think it's perfectly valid:

    mas·cu·line   /ˈmæskyəlɪn/ Show Spelled
    [mas-kyuh-lin]
    –adjective
    1. pertaining to or characteristic of a man or men: masculine attire.
    2. having qualities traditionally ascribed to men, as strength and boldness.
    Unless that wasn't your point previously, in which case: why are those qualities you selected masculine, as opposed to something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRT View Post
    Not sure that applies between a term and a colllection of traits, but even if it does, considering that is how it's defined, I think it's perfectly valid:

    Unless that wasn't your point previously, in which case: why are those qualities you selected masculine, as opposed to something else?
    my point was simply that more men possess these qualities than women. as such, men tend to come to mind more, hence the designation masculine as new words come about via assocation. it does not mean that they have this quality because they are men, it just means these qualities are more common in men.
    I guess what I really meant was, association does not equal causation
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