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    Question Ayn Rand

    I have heard a bit recently about Rand, especially in the United States after the 2007-8 financial crisis. As I don't know much about her ideas: what sort of ideas coming from her are particularly attractive to people?
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

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    Ayn Rand is considered by many to be a fairly mediocre writer of fiction, but strangely popular in the USA. Perhaps because it was associated with associated with the rise of a extreme-individualist movement (she was apparently unaware of the issues facing philosophers at the time, which cast deep doubt on the rational basis of her 'objectivist' movement). The Fountainhead is regarded as her best novel and often the only one worth reading. As opposed to Atlas Shrugged which collapses under the weight of its ideological claptrap.

    See also: http://reason.com/archives/2005/03/01/ayn-rand-at-100

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    Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Evil.
    In what way?
    “To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.”—Statement from unpublished notes for the Preface to the Opticks (1704) by Newton.

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    Aaaaand the show begins

    There are a few objectivists on the forum who will be more than happy to clue you in. So are a lot of people strongly opposed to her views.

    For starters:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_rand
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism_%28Ayn_Rand%29
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_egoism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thisica View Post
    In what way?
    Every.

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    Her basic philosophy is that altruism and assistance of the community are evil, and that individualism and completely acting in the most selfish/rational method possible is good. This is evident in her door stopper novels, which from what I've heard aren't really that good.

    For some, her philosophy is good for them, if they despise weakness and desire power. Thus in such economic times, someone who follows Rand would abolish everything in the way of government assistance, taxes, and the like; capitalism in it's purest form.

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    Ayn Rand is the epitome of INTJ. personally I love her, while I consider myself only a moderate Objectivist, she makes many compelling and logical arguments.
    PS: she's not saying community service and helping people are evil, she's saying that putting others needs before your own is evil and leads to low productivity and ultimately to both parties being less well off.
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    Ayn Rand is a hilariously bad writer, and The Fountainhead is 600 pages of lulz. Remember, guys, compassion = mediocrity! What? You want to help people?! You unoriginal hack, you!

    Why yes, I am totally unhelpful. It's because I'm not a second-rater.

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    You see, once you've read Ayn Rand, there's no going back. It changes you!

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