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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    Ah, no, sorry, I meant, you know, because of the raincoat / face framed in shadow thing.
    You mean like this? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...FramedInShadow

    Haha. Yes, the Atlas movie was one big trope, yet in the end nobody cared about that.
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    Sorry for the red X, here's the Galt guy (Paul Johannson):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    OOC, was Rand an Enneatype One?
    Yes, she was. 1w9 So/Sp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Yes, she was. 1w9 So/Sp.
    What was Rand's ANSIR profile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Idealist View Post
    Her basic philosophy is that altruism and assistance of the community are evil, and that individualism and completely acting in the most selfish/rational method possible is good. This is evident in her door stopper novels, which from what I've heard aren't really that good.

    For some, her philosophy is good for them, if they despise weakness and desire power. Thus in such economic times, someone who follows Rand would abolish everything in the way of government assistance, taxes, and the like; capitalism in it's purest form.
    Its just the rationalisation of privilege as legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Its just the rationalisation of privilege as legitimate.
    That is a European sentiment, it neglects to recognize the existence of the American "self-made man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    That is a European sentiment, it neglects to recognize the existence of the American "self-made man."
    And were did the Americans borrow that idea from? Robinson Crusoe, Adam Smith and any of the others I could mention, English. All of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    That is a European sentiment, it neglects to recognize the existence of the American "self-made man."
    And were did the Americans borrow that idea from? Robinson Crusoe, Adam Smith and any of the others I could mention, English. All of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    And were did the Americans borrow that idea from? Robinson Crusoe, Adam Smith and any of the others I could mention, English. All of them.
    Then learn something from Robinson Crusoe, Adam Smith, and the others.
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    I believing thinking and the mind are important. But I believe Rand conflates many different things. I have found that those who spend a lot of time thinking, but has some sort of objectivist bent, lacks the mental flexibility to use alternate formal frameworks that reach the same ends. I think one "cure" to objectivism, is to work on writing software that has many different programmers being worked on at the same time.

    Self interest and preservation are important, but elevating greed to a virtue is ridiculous.

    I wish people would actually "go Galt."

    If this actually happened: http://amberandchaos.com/?page_id=106

    I would simply respond, "Good riddance." The only ways society would miss a person such as Galt, are in the ways he violated his own so-called "morality" and so-called "reason".

    But we'd quickly replace the value of such people, since much of what they consider moral acts to suck(at high rates) resources from society.

    Go away Galt. We don't want you.

    I realize that Galt seems fairly reasonable in his abstract arguments. But his specific interpretations are the issue.

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