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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignite View Post
    I'm assuming that interview with the boys is legit and not a fabricated story... They both suffer from bullying and they're both angry and violent because of it. Victim/aggressor.
    WTF? How are they both the aggressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Withdrawing would be a defensive move, attacking would be an aggressive move.

    Both are legitimate responses, and there is nothing morally wrong with aggression. Why some people are disturbed by aggression could be examined in-depth, but in this case, we can clearly see that the use of violence led to a successful conclusion of the confrontation.
    An aggressive defense doesn't make one an aggressor. An aggressor in this context means something entirely different.

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    MacGuffin, watch:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Manifest View Post
    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__IjcLVBBYc"]:rolli:[/YOUTUBE]
    I mean, you're right if this boy Richard is lying about his account of what the video doesn't show. I'm assuming he's being truthful (maybe if just to play Devil's advocate).

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    I think the interview was telling. When the bully was asked if he was sorry for what he did, he answered honestly, "no" until his father persuaded him to change his answer. At the end of the interview when asked if there was any lesson to be learned, after the interviewer just described empathy to him, his response was, "Don't bully because you'll end up getting hurt bad," not "Don't bully because it's mean and hurts other people." Even when he was asked if he would ever bully again, he hesitated to answer. I think it's obvious that he didn't learn his lesson and isn't truly remorseful. He's only sorry that he got his ass kicked and received negative attention from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignite View Post
    MacGuffin, watch:



    I mean, you're right if this boy Richard is lying about his account of what the video doesn't show. I'm assuming he's being truthful (maybe if just to play Devil's advocate).
    What does that have to do with the boy he bullied being an aggressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    An aggressive defense doesn't make one an aggressor. An aggressor in this context means something entirely different.
    I would say that the victim clearly seized the initiative and accomplished what he set out to do with stunning success. He was clearly the superior fighter, and fully justified in his aggression. Few are in a position to be so bold and noble, simultaneously. This is why we view him as heroic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    I would say that the victim clearly seized the initiative and accomplished what he set out to do with stunning success. He was clearly the superior fighter, and fully justified in his aggression. Few are in a position to be so bold and noble, simultaneously. This is why we view him as heroic.
    That's why the interwebz celebrated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    What does that have to do with the boy he bullied being an aggressor?
    Use names please, because at this point there is no established bully (again, assuming Richard's account is truthful).

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    [YOUTUBE="tJe3XpWmuVY"]I like this one[/YOUTUBE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignite View Post
    Use names please, because at this point there is no established bully (again, assuming Richard's account is truthful).
    The bully is Ritchard.

    That's dumb way to spell Richard, btw.

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