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    The radioactivity is just due to the coolant (water), which had been exposed to radiation during the functioning of the reactor, being released (albeit explosively) without treatment.
    This is not the same thing as the core essentially being exposed to the air like it was in Chernobyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeru View Post
    I'm still worried about the reactor, it'll cause an even bigger problem than the quake has.
    It will not. The media is fear-mongering as usual. It kinda pisses me off.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72D0BM20110314

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    yeah, 1/3 of the budget of power-plants goes into safety. I wouldn't worry Takeru.

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    Yeah, the core seems unlikely to become exposed. However, afaik "experts" don't know exactly what's happening - which is perfectly normal, since the central's electronic equipment has likely gone bust. I've spoken with a friend who has a MSc in nuclear engineering, and he said that the worst-case scenario, given all the info we have, is a multiple explosion causing sublimation of contaminated water.

    edit: apparently a fire broke out in a contaminated fuel storage, that's what released the last wave of radiation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Yeah, the core seems unlikely to become exposed. However, afaik "experts" don't know exactly what's happening - which is perfectly normal, since the central's electronic equipment has likely gone bust. I've spoken with a friend who has a MSc in nuclear engineering, and he said that the worst-case scenario, given all the info we have, is a multiple explosion causing sublimation of contaminated water.
    Was watching NHK yesterday, and they mentioned that in reactor 1, the fuel rods were exposed for 1.7 m of the total 4 m length before they pumped in seawater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William K View Post
    Was watching NHK yesterday, and they mentioned that in reactor 1, the fuel rods were exposed for 1.7 m of the total 4 m length before they pumped in seawater.
    Misconception. "Exposed" in the case of Chernobyl = exposed to the atmosphere through explosion.

    "Exposed" in this case meaning still within the reactor container, but exposed to air/steam in it because all the water evaporated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsequitur View Post
    Misconception. "Exposed" in the case of Chernobyl = exposed to the atmosphere through explosion.

    "Exposed" in this case meaning still within the reactor container, but exposed to air/steam in it because all the water evaporated.
    Yeah, that's what I meant. Exposed as in not in the water but still safe within the containment unit
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    I think one reason why the nuclear story has kinda overshadowed the quake and the tsunami is that it's related to something man-made and people in a lot of countries are thinking "Could this happen here too?"

    Still, the French government saying that a radioactive cloud can reach Tokyo in 10 hours and advising their citizens to evacuate is a bit too much
    Last edited by William K; 03-15-2011 at 04:47 AM. Reason: Changed from the stronger 'telling' to 'advising'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    No. Our culture is largely selfish and competitive, and theirs cooperative.

    In fact, I've witnessed comments on-line of Americans complaining about us aiding the Japanese at all.

    We're a country full of really warm, compassionate people.
    Apparently, we are compassionate people, at least in relative terms.

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    Im impressed by how they behave in this time of crisis.. its in the news now.. no caos.. people are still standing in line and so on.. Not much of stealing either...

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