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    What are your views on socialism? Is it good or bad or inbetween? What are the effects of using socialist policies within a capitalist nation? Can it work if done right?

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    No.. socialism doesn't work. It's a nice idea though!

    When you implement “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need,” magically, everyone starts having quite a lot of need and very little ability.
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    We will need some clear cut definitions here. For example, as a European, hearing some Americans call healthcare "socialist" is downright laughable (ut then again I grew up under a "social market economy"). So how will we define socialism and socialist-ish-y policies for the purpose of this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley3112 View Post
    No.. socialism doesn't work. It's a nice idea though!
    Not sure if trolling or just unaware of the dozens of highly developed countries running on socialist principles. Ignorance is forgivable, but trolling this bad is not cool.

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    socialism is ridiculous and immoral. I do not have the responsibility to give up over half my earnings for the good of people I don't even know. to me, the only logical form of government is one that is subservient to the people and has no power to intervene in any affair that doesn't deal with criminal behavior, infrastructure and national defense. in socialist systems, there is no incentive for anything to get done

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    I challenge every one of you to define socialism before you comment on it or if you already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I challenge every one of you to define socialism before you comment on it or if you already have.
    Told you so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    socialism is ridiculous and immoral. I do not have the responsibility to give up over half my earnings for the good of people I don't even know. to me, the only logical form of government is one that is subservient to the people and has no power to intervene in any affair that doesn't deal with criminal behavior, infrastructure and national defense. in socialist systems, there is no incentive for anything to get done
    Most socialist nations are democratic. The people decide how the government works.

    Why do you draw the line at criminal behavior, infrastructure, and defense? And how can you say there is no incentive to get anything done in a socialist society? I would argue that this is not only wrong, it's exactly opposite of what is actually happening in these nations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    I challenge every one of you to define socialism before you comment on it or if you already have.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

    Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    socialism is ridiculous and immoral. I do not have the responsibility to give up over half my earnings for the good of people I don't even know. to me, the only logical form of government is one that is subservient to the people and has no power to intervene in any affair that doesn't deal with criminal behavior, infrastructure and national defense. in socialist systems, there is no incentive for anything to get done
    Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun - Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beargryllz View Post
    Not sure if trolling or just unaware of the dozens of highly developed countries running on socialist principles. Ignorance is forgivable, but trolling this bad is not cool.
    Name them.. name socialist countries that are not in TERRIBLE financial trouble.
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