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    Exclamation Chinese Liberal dictatorship vs Western Liberal democracy





    Chinese Liberal dictatorship



    Pros : People follow the rules, streets are safe, economic prosperity, control over businesses "extreme" behaviour.

    Cons : More limited individual liberties.


    Western Liberal democracy



    Pros : Greater individual liberties

    Cons : Streets are not safe, people don't follow the rules, economic instability due to non-control over businesses "extreme" behaviour.


    Which type of government is the best ?


    * Definitions * :

    Liberal dictatorship -»
    Economically : liberal
    Socially/Politically : authoritarian

    Liberal democracy -»
    Economically : liberal
    Socially/Politically : democratic

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    Well, according to Alex Jones in his movie Endgame.
    Chinese style liberal dictatorship is on it's way to a western democracy near you.
    If We see a North American Union and a Pacific Union that follow the European union.
    Then we will be down to 3 regional mega governments world wide. None of which will be elected.
    So watch out for moves in this direction.
    As it stands right now, to me.. The streets are way safer than the news would have me believe..
    For example.. I am a hick Canadian wandering around the Chicago loop.. Obviously lost and without a clue, and people were offering to help me!! I couldn't figure out at one point how to get my transit card into the turnstile, and this nice young woman came over and showed me.
    Now the way the news paints things.. Looking people in the eyes might get me shot.
    Been to Detroit and Boston too.. Don't see it..
    I think Americans are hospitable and rather friendly people, even at night.

    I choose western democracy, is my point.. We just need a more responsible media..

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    A monumental over-simplification.

    Also, this may just be semantic, but I don't think the term liberal dictatorship even makes sense.

    And finally, of all possible representatives of liberal democracy, the USA is a pretty poor choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    Well, according to Alex Jones in his movie Endgame.
    Chinese style liberal dictatorship is on it's way to a western democracy near you.
    If We see a North American Union and a Pacific Union that follow the European union.
    Then we will be down to 3 regional mega governments world wide. None of which will be elected.
    So watch out for moves in this direction.
    As it stand right now.. The streets are way safer than the news would have you believe..
    For example.. I am a hick Canadian wandering around the Chicago loop.. Obviously lost and without a clue, and people were offering to help me!!
    Now the way the news paints things.. Looking people in the eyes might get you shot.
    Been to Detroit and Boston too.. Don't see it..
    I think Americans are hospitable and rather friendly people.

    I chose western democracy, is my point.. We just need a more responsible media..
    I like Alex Jones, but I think western democracies want to slowly apply the "chinese style" government to western countries. From what I heard, and from very aware friends.

    But who knows what western people or chinese people are gonna do the next 5 years, maybe a revolution...

    And its true that some US cities are more safe than what the media says. I was in Baltimore (top 10 most dangerous cities in the US) in october, the city was kinda normal.


    But in France, looking people in the eye, is actually a very popular way to get beaten to death, especially in suburbs or banlieues (dangerous areas).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    A monumental over-simplification.

    Also, this may just be semantic, but I don't think the term liberal dictatorship even makes sense.

    And finally, of all possible representatives of liberal democracy, the USA is a pretty poor choice.
    More like the Scandinavian countries then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Also, this may just be semantic, but I don't think the term liberal dictatorship even makes sense.
    Liberal dictatorship :

    Economically : liberal
    Socially/Politically : authoritarian

    Liberal democracy :

    Economically : liberal
    Socially/Politically : democratic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    More like the Scandinavian countries then?
    Right-O.

    Quote Originally Posted by redScorpion View Post
    Liberal dictatorship :

    Economically : liberal
    Socially/Politically : authoritarian

    Liberal democracy :

    Economically : liberal
    Socially/Politically : democratic
    So what do you define as economically liberal?
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    The USA is clearly listed as an example of a liberal democracy..

    A liberal democracy, also known as a bourgeois democracy or constitutional democracy, is a common form of representative democracy. According to the principles of liberal democracy, the elections should be free and fair, and the political process should be competitive. Political pluralism is usually defined as the presence of multiple and distinct political parties.

    A liberal democracy may take various constitutional forms: it may be a constitutional republic (sometimes federal republic), as the United States, India, Germany or Brazil, or a constitutional monarchy, such as the United Kingdom, Japan, Canada or Spain. It may have a presidential system (United States, Brazil), a parliamentary system (Westminster system, UK and Commonwealth countries, Spain), or a hybrid, semi-presidential system (France).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    More like the Scandinavian countries then?
    Right-o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    The USA is clearly listed as an example of a liberal democracy..

    A liberal democracy, also known as a bourgeois democracy or constitutional democracy, is a common form of representative democracy. According to the principles of liberal democracy, the elections should be free and fair, and the political process should be competitive. Political pluralism is usually defined as the presence of multiple and distinct political parties.

    A liberal democracy may take various constitutional forms: it may be a constitutional republic (sometimes federal republic), as the United States, India, Germany or Brazil, or a constitutional monarchy, such as the United Kingdom, Japan, Canada or Spain. It may have a presidential system (United States, Brazil), a parliamentary system (Westminster system, UK and Commonwealth countries, Spain), or a hybrid, semi-presidential system (France).
    That's a bunch of stuff I knew already. I didn't say the USA wasn't one, I said it was a poor representative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    So what do you define as economically liberal?
    Entrepreneurship and private property is allowed.

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