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    Quote Originally Posted by Curator View Post
    I read in another article earlier this morning that FN got in some legal trouble in 2006 for distributing soups to the public that all had pork in them, specifically stating it was so the Practicing jews and muslims could not eat it... that seems rather racist to me... I will go look for the article and post it if I can find it again...
    It's not racist, The Fn is about French people, French culture, French patriotism etc... They don't want any "foreign" culture impose anything on our things, that's all.

    And I find pretty indecent religious people "requiring" generous people to give them "halal" or kosher food. It's not a freaking restaurant, if you're hungry, you eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redScorpion View Post
    I havent said that. Yes there are some afro-muslimg (with even white people in it) gangs that terrorize people by stealing stuffs (iphones mostly), and beating people when they look at them the wrong way. And sometimes it ends in killing (knives mostly).

    That's what I'Ve said.
    How many people have been killed this way?

    You have to prove us those "killings" aren't anecdotal or extremely rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    How many people have been killed this way?

    You have to prove us those "killings" aren't anecdotal or extremely rare.
    I've never said that this killings werent rare, but I can say that it does happen at least one time per month. But the terrorizing, and stealing part is everyday though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I saw earlier you mention that you thought he was bashing the afro arab population in France on a racist level.

    Want to report that posting, if you really think it breaks rules? Because, to your dismay I'm sure, bashing France is fine here, but if explicit racist comments are made about afro arabs... then we are talking more about denigrating a race/ethnicity than a nationality, which is less kosher.
    It's exactly that. It's an explicit racist comment about Afro-Arab people. We are talking about denigrating a specific ethnicity; at least, that's what RedScorpion is trying to do when he's explaining that "Afro-Arab Muslim gangs" are terrorizing innocent French people daily. It's nonsense, it's absurd, it's bigotry and its obvious goal is to spread hate against people of this ethnicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    It's exactly that. It's an explicit racist comment about Afro-Arab people. We are talking about denigrating a specific ethnicity; at least, that's what RedScorpion is trying to do when he's explaining that "Afro-Arab Muslim gangs" are terrorizing innocent French people. It's nonsense, it's absurd, it's bigotry and the obvious goal is to spread hate against people of this ethnicity.
    Not at all, first I'm black so I don't care about people ethnicity, all I care is their actions. And the afro-muslim gangbangers are French people too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redScorpion View Post
    It's not racist, The Fn is about French people, French culture, French patriotism etc... They don't want any "foreign" culture impose anything on our things, that's all.

    And I find pretty indecent religious people "requiring" generous people to give them "halal" or kosher food. It's not a freaking restaurant, if you're hungry, you eat.
    unfortunately, your own court system disagreed with you... and personally, I think most people know that purposely excluding anyone strictly because of their race/culture is a big part of the definition of racism... If you where told you couldnt be a member of a forum because you where black, and that forum wanted to be all about white people, white culture, white pride... would you not call that racism?

    Knowing that a large amount of the poor require by their religion that they cannot eat pork, and specifically choosing to put pork in EVERYTHING you make to hand out to the poor, purposely excludes them based on their religion/race, at the very least its extremely bigoted... They could have put chicken...its a much cheaper and higher quality protein source...there was no other reason to put pork in that soup than to exclude the muslims and jews, and you know it... defend it if you will, but Own it for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    You've been on the brink of a ban more times than you want to know. We still don't know what to do with you.

    You get emotional and seem to like stirring up drama and if you could just control that you'd become less of a "problem member" that the mod staff has to look over like a kid.

    Red Scorpian, even though people are saying he's a total far right-wing troll (and I'm a Lefty)... I've had a couple arguments/debates with him, and it went fine. He didn't make things personal, like you often do, which often creates problems.

    Disclaimer: I haven't read every argument/debate rS has been in, so maybe he's trolled other members and I missed it. But from what I see he just has some really unpopular opinions, which aren't against the rules.

    If someone is an Alex Jones fan and they can handle me disrespecting Jones, and not get angry and personal, but instead remain reasonable like rS did, and even agree with me on certain points... that takes some restraint.
    You've been on the brink of a ban more times than you want to know. We still don't know what to do with you.
    What can you do? You have 2 choices, you ban me or you don't. The question remains. Do I break the forum rules and not correct myself when I do? The problem is , maybe you don't like me. And you know you can't ban me for that. Or again you can, but it's hollow.
    And I know how close I have come, probably more than you think.

    You get emotional and seem to like stirring up drama and if you could just control that you'd become less of a "problem member" that the mod staff has to look over like a kid.
    And there is the other problem. You guys think your power of "seem" goes above and beyond the ability of most human observational capabilities.
    A lot of stuff might seem like something. You guys should spend less time consulting your crystal balls and maybe come make sure you know what is going on. I have never had my mood or intentions more incorrectly judged than I have by people with blue names, on this forum.
    You guys have decided I have one emotional state and see an angry person ,you are so biased at this point , you cant see anything else.

    And Finally.. You guys post too much and interact to much and get too involved in the controversial threads, you take sides and play favorites.
    And then you wonder why I don't respect your judgments.

    This is an observation delivered with a smile. Whatever emotional reaction it causes is yours. I am in a great mood myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curator View Post
    unfortunately, your own court system disagreed with you... and personally, I think most people know that purposely excluding anyone strictly because of their race/culture is a big part of the definition of racism... If you where told you couldnt be a member of a forum because you where black, and that forum wanted to be all about white people, white culture, white pride... would you not call that racism?
    It's "donation", they do what they want.

    And There are restaurants that don't serve halal and koshed food too, are they racist ?

    Knowing that a large amount of the poor require by their religion that they cannot eat pork, and specifically choosing to put pork in EVERYTHING you make to hand out to the poor, purposely excludes them based on their religion/race, at the very least its extremely bigoted... They could have put chicken...its a much cheaper and higher quality protein source...there was no other reason to put pork in that soup than to exclude the muslims and jews, and you know it... defend it if you will, but Own it for what it is.
    You obviously don't know how important food, especially french food, is important to French people. It's our national pride. Pork is our national pride. Wine is our national pride etc... So people coming here and saying that they dont wanna touch our "national" pride is frustating to a lot of French people.

    And its not to non-religious people to conform to religious crazyness, it's to religious people to conform with normality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redScorpion View Post
    I've never said that this killings werent rare, but I can say that it does happen at least one time per month.
    Proof?

    But the terrorizing, and stealing part is everyday though.
    Do I feel "terrorized"?

    According to the Observatoire National de la Délinquance, in 2009 only 20.5% of French citizens feel unsafe somehow, while more than 74% of them didn't.

    And once again, the average crime rate in France is several times lower than in the US, at least for violent murders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redScorpion View Post
    It's "donation", they do what they want.

    And There are restaurants that don't serve halal and koshed food too, are they racist ?
    its not about what they do, its about WHY they CHOOSE to do what they do RS, if a restaurant specifically chooses not to serve Halal/kosher food with the express intent of excluding muslim/jewish customers, then that is racist/bigoted, If they just dont want the hassle of having a bigger menu (which really is a lot harder to do), or prefer to specialize in a particular type of cuisine, that is NOT... Although its a bad business model, the more variety of people you can appeal to, the more business you can get... unless you can do what you specialize in better than anyone else...

    you seem to have missed the point entirely, they fully admit to specifically making the soups with pork to exclude muslims and jews, that is racist/bigoted, its not like they got a special deal on some cheap pork soup and decided to donate that, no, they specifically made this soup with pork in it to exclude specific races/religions, that is the definition of racism in this situation my friend, if you cannot see that, I am not sure if any further discourse is even worthwhile.
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