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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Is that what this is?

    Is this so hard for INFPs?

    If so, I apologize for saying Nolla might not be NF.

    It's just completely perplexing to me. Can Fi doms really not see outside of themselves?

    Is this why they bother me so much?
    Yeah, Marm, you are pretty much on the area of the "core values" for me...

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    Okay. Scratch that.

    But anyway, you sound like an SJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Try to think about this compassionately or objectively instead of sarcastically.
    Make the correction on the list. I really have very hard time imagining myself having these things in my psyche, so you got to actually LIST those things very clearly if you want to get somewhere with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    Make the correction on the list. I really have very hard time imagining myself having these things in my psyche, so you got to actually LIST those things very clearly if you want to get somewhere with it.
    No you fucking use your auxillary Ne (if you actually have it) and step outside of yourself, and use your fucking inferior Te to collect some information about the actual reality of the United States.

    Stop being so Fi dependent.

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    You just claimed to be somehow psychic with imagining how it is for other people, so you imagine how I would take the info positively and make that list.

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    I'm sort of torn here.

    I understand Nollas perplexion at what looks like national paranoia. On the other hand, I think this goes way beyond fear. It has something to do with the American concept of self sufficiency, which has historic roots and is somewhat alien to most Europeans. To us it smacks of plan waggons on the prarie, but I get it that standing up for yourself and taking care of things on your own and needing to feel independent from your neigbors and your community (because the state, to us, ultimately is just another word for community or its representation) can be a very legitimate value that is of extreme importance to many people.
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    I imagine you're a self-absorbed baby.

    So make your own list.

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    Jeez, what is it that these last few days so many threads turn into sandbox fights.

    Could we please return to adult discussion or do I have to call the cops? Strike that, I'll get my baseball bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    Jeez, what is it that these last few days so many threads turn into sandbox fights.
    Maybe because not everyone agrees with Marm's exceptional people reading abilities...

    EDIT: Anyone else willing to fill up the list? I think it might be useful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolla View Post
    Maybe because not everyone agrees with Marm's exceptional people reading abilities...

    EDIT: Anyone else willing to fill up the list? I think it might be useful...
    Look - do you even know anything about the constitution of the United States? About our police force? The psyche of our people?

    I've spent YEARS of my life imagining being a Western European. As an NF, it's exceptionally easy and boring - you think people should be nice and cooperate and get along and shouldn't need guns because people should be nice and cooperative and get along.

    It's not hard for me to imagine being a man from Finland. But apparently it's very hard for you to imagine being a person from out in the countryside of the southern United States...or being Russian...or Chinese.

    Just look into our culture. Attempt to understand what might motivate a person toward self-defense rather than interdependence.

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