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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Jared Loughner

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

    He sounds like he has a few screws loose.

    Indeed. Reminds me of a friend of mine who has huntington's chorea.
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    So you can let go when you give it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Jared Loughner

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../1/nHoaZaLbqB4

    He sounds like he has a few screws loose.
    Historically most political assassinations in the USA have come from nut-cases rather than political agents. Though you could say there were vague political ideas behind their actions.

    At any rate, the war of accusations have already broke out online. Every article I've read about it with comments has both people blaming the tea party and people blaming Obama (oddly, given who the congresswoman in question is).
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    May Christ be with the victims.

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    She is one of the few people speaking out against the immigration law, which requires Hispanics* to carry their papers with them at all times, with penalties of up to several months in jail for failing to produce documents showing their American citizenship.
    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClSk_OrHSIM&feature=share"]USA v. State of AZ[/YOUTUBE]
    The penitentiary system stands to make billions upon billions of dollars.

    I know people who won't let their born and raised American kids speak Spanish outside of the home because Arizona is getting heated.

    *the law states that non-Americans need to carry around their documents, but I'm a WASP Canadian living in AZ and have never been asked to produce them, whereas Hispanic Americans need to carry around documents to show their American citizenship, which makes AZ a policed state rather than a democratic one.
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    People aren't saying much about the federal judge that died in the shooting.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    People aren't saying much about the federal judge that died in the shooting.
    Yeah--I'm interested to hear (in the "what does this mean?" kind of way, not the insensitive kind of way). I didn't recognize the name.
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    This is a tragedy beyond comprehension.
    She was reaching out to her constituents in front of a Safeway grocery store, after winning her third term in Congress.
    Why didn't she have some kind of security, be it state or federal?
    I heard on CNN that her and another congressman from that region have received death threats in the past.
    She was recently married to an ex-astronaut.
    They had no children together but she was reported to be a good stepmother to her husband's kids from his prior marriage.
    May she rest in peace along with all that were slain at the same event, and may their families find solace, and hopefully justice in the days to come.

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    It's not uncommon for Congressmen to have lax security at some events. I've seen this firsthand.

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    Interestingly Judge Roll had allowed a $37 mil lawsuit by illegal immigrants against an arizona rancher. As a result he received over 100 threats and was given a security detail.
    http://abovethelaw.com/2011/01/feder...oman-shooting/

    It should be noted that he wasn't participating in the event, but lived near the store and stopped by to say hello.
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    The gunman is schitzophrenic. His videos are really fucked up... this is what happens when any nutjob can get a gun....this is a serious problem in the US.

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