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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    I watch CNN some.
    Yeah, pretty straight reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    There is only one negative consequence of truth and that is that the people that benefit from lies could stand abashed.
    There is a bit more to this then lies.

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    ^ What he said. It's usually a more complex situation than what is presented or in this case assumed.

    It could take years for the repercussions of this to fully play out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    ^ What he said. It's usually a more complex situation than what is presented or in this case assumed.
    Not really. Only that lies are part of it.

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    I don't think it is valid to make blanket statements about whether revealing diplomatic secrets is in the public interest. It depends on the information.

    The most obvious example would be in disclosing the fact that the government of an Islamic country allowed foreign military strikes against militants in their own country. Making that public would cause unrest in those countries and discourage future cooperation.

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    This thread lacks idealism. Never mind that it´s an INTP posting. We have a thing for truth, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post


    This thread lacks idealism. Never mind that it´s an INTP posting. We have a thing for truth, right?
    Ironic, given his administration's penchant for lying outright to the American public about our geopolitical policy and machinations.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

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    Has Victor been active since the arrest?
    Finally Australia's Foreign Minister, Kevin Rudd, has sent me a laptop as promised and I am once more in ecstatic contact with you.

    And all I can do is ask you, who commissioned MBTI seventy years ago? And have any random double bind experiments been done with MBTI in all that seventy years? And if not, why not?

    I do know these are disturbing questions, just as many have found Wikileaks to be disturbing.

    But I am writing to you from confined quarters at the moment, but I know I have your best wishes and my spirits are high.

    And remember, information wants to be free, just like me.

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    Who is talking about Kennedy himself, it's the idea that matters (and the fact that this sounds otherworldly in our cynical ears even thoug it should be a given).

    On a different note: Free Victor! Let's all organize a hunger strike (i.e. A week without boob thread) in solidarity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Ohh yes. The cables do make US look bad, and specific content hasn't been reported much. But I've been hearing about the UN spying stuff, at least on MSNBC.

    You prob watch BBC. I assume every eurotrasher watches that station. But I think Fox has an affiliate out there, Sky News or something or other.
    BBC broadcast national news isn't up to much these days - I prefer Channel 4.
    I get news channels from all over the globe via satellite and I can't tolerate any of the American ones (or SkyNews), but even they are better than the appalling dross which gets served up by local news stations in the States. They are so stupendously lame it's actually shocking - but it does go some way to explain the woeful ignorance of many Americans. There's a French news channel I watch sometimes and even the Chinese one is pretty interesting.

    I resort to online journalism if I want to actually know what's going on in the world.
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