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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Liquid_Laser View Post
    This may be splitting hairs but I think it has more to do with the role of corporations in society rather than capitalism itself. These corporations can bribe officials anywhere in the world, not just in a capitalist country. The vast ability to raise funds also gives corporations the vast ability to influence governments. I don't think there is an easy fix to the problem, only that it has gradually gotten worse over the years.
    Yes, though the extent to which corporate bribery is effective differs from country to country. Governments that are less corrupt, such as that of Sweden are less easy to influence this way than ones that are rife with corruption. Extortion and bribery are so common in Russia, for instance, that the government and the Red Mafia are very much one in the same, owning and influencing up to 40% of the country. The United States government is also rife with corruption, which is why we've been in a constant state of war for the last 70 years. Weapon manufacturers such as Lockheed Martin have such a large amount of influence in this country that the government will more readily begin a war in order to raise their stock prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMoon View Post
    Yes, though the extent to which corporate bribery is effective differs from country to country. Governments that are less corrupt, such as that of Sweden are less easy to influence this way than ones that are rife with corruption. Extortion and bribery are so common in Russia, for instance, that the government and the Red Mafia are very much one in the same, owning and influencing up to 40% of the country. The United States government is also rife with corruption, which is why we've been in a constant state of war for the last 70 years. Weapon manufacturers such as Lockheed Martin have such a large amount of influence in this country that the government will more readily begin a war in order to raise their stock prices.

    “The army is some guy you don’t know telling you to go whack some other guy you don’t know.”
    I guess the US and Russia are not too different after all. One country's government is held hostage by a large evil organization with lots of weapons that demands vast sums of money for "protection". The other country is Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarMoon View Post
    Yes, though the extent to which corporate bribery is effective differs from country to country. Governments that are less corrupt, such as that of Sweden are less easy to influence this way than ones that are rife with corruption. Extortion and bribery are so common in Russia, for instance, that the government and the Red Mafia are very much one in the same, owning and influencing up to 40% of the country. The United States government is also rife with corruption, which is why we've been in a constant state of war for the last 70 years. Weapon manufacturers such as Lockheed Martin have such a large amount of influence in this country that the government will more readily begin a war in order to raise their stock prices.

    “The army is some guy you don’t know telling you to go whack some other guy you don’t know.”
    I think the military industrial complex in the US is a reality and the country hasnt been at peace since the second world war which is in sharp, sharp contrast to things prior to the second world war and even greater contrast to the US prior to that but I do think its highly reductive to reduce it to that altogether.

    War can be and is frequently a racket, when they break out for whatever reasont there's always someone who will look to exploit the situation but then Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine has basically shown that that kind of thing isnt restricted to war, just about any crisis response is going to involve exploitation at this stage in the game.

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