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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I think, and I'm being serious, only women should be allowed to do these pat down checks and perhaps the whole security process. If it were only women in charge, I think everyone would be a lot happier with these invasive security measures... groping or no groping.
    Well if you are a female you can request that another female do the patdown. You might have to wait a bit as they get a woman TSA officer for you but that is an option now. Years ago a female coworker complained that on her trip to our training the TSA officer made her take off her cardigan. This might not sound like a big deal but what people (guys) don't know is that women can wear nothing or the equivalent of lingerie underneath cardigans. That was in her case. She said she felt really violated because they made her take off her cardigan right there on the spot and do the body check and it was obvious she was wearing the equivalent of underwear. She said even other passengers were staring at her so it made her more uncomfortable. The TSA actually did take these complaints into account because they were happening all over the country. Later when I was wearing a sweatshirt and entering the security line at an airport the female TSA agent asked me if I was wearing anything under my sweatshirt and I didn't understand what she meant so I said "no" and they didn't make me take it off.

    Buuuut, yeah, the TSA practices could definitely be improved. Then again, some airports in other countries it is ridiculous. Bogota, Colombia was pretty bad getting in and out, I think they are looking more for drugs than WMD but a lot of the delay was simply lack of staff and poor planning. I do like how you can keep your shoes on in many other places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    I think, and I'm being serious, only women should be allowed to do these pat down checks and perhaps the whole security process. If it were only women in charge, I think everyone would be a lot happier with these invasive security measures... groping or no groping.
    What difference does it being a woman make? I don't care if the TSA agent is an asexual eunuch; I simply don't want to have a stranger grope my body. The naked x-ray is humiliating also.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    I personally don't have a problem with the body scans.
    Hopefully you also don't have a problem with TSA agents snickering about your small penis size...or maybe they only do that to co-workers.

    http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-b...-92971929.html


    The safety of the scanners are being questioned also....although, it seems the odds of dying from radiation from a body scanner is about the same as, oh, dying in a terrorist attack.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-12/t...n?_s=PM:TRAVEL

    http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...y-scanners.ars
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    Hrm. I really have no problem with those body scanners or or pat downs. They don't make me uncomfortable. I was actually hoping the body scanners would make things easier for me.

    I have trouble at airports. Between the 13 piercings I have, and the 7 metal screws/bars in my left leg... Something on me does not like metal detectors. So I always get pulled aside. Have to get patted down. Actually, in one airport they even asked me to unzip my jeans and fold the hem down a few inches. Thats right - packin' some explosives in dat ass.

    They always get uncomfortable about the medical brace that is built into my left shoe. I always have to wait for like 20 minutes while they call in 6 more guys to inspect my brace. One even wanted me to go into the flight shoeless, and get my shoes back at the other airport. But the person I was flying with was really unhappy about it and bitched until some senior staff member showed up and gave me the OK to wear my shoes onto the plane.
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    Wow, my city was just named most dangerous in the U.S.

    So I get a whole bunch of inspection at the airport when I'm a good million times more likely to die in a drive-by once I leave the airport than I am from a terrorist attack, with or without body scanners, but nobody's going to search all the drivers getting into their cars so they're not guns, are they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    Fined for what?

    For an alternative model to the TSA:

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...-little-bother
    Yeah, I lived in Israel for 6 months and dealt through their security systems on a regular basis. I do think their approach is very efficient and effective (and the general mindset toward security is cautious but manages to completely avoid paranoia). The security at major bus and train stations is equivalent to a small international airport. The airport itself is really full on. I went through 3 different security measures before checking in my bags. I was also running a little late (typical) and they had this great system to speed up the process so I wouldn't miss my flight.
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    I think it's a big fuss about nothing. So what if some random worker looked at anonymous images of your body? It's much less invasive than when strangers see you in a public shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not_Me View Post
    I think it's a big fuss about nothing. So what if some random worker looked at anonymous images of your body? It's much less invasive than when strangers see you in a public shower.
    Strangers aren't bombarding you with x-rays when you shower with them, though, and usually they aren't taking pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Strangers aren't bombarding you with x-rays when you shower with them, though, and usually they aren't taking pictures.
    But don't they claim that the radiation you get is far less that the dose from a single flight? The pictures don't matter because they are anonymous. Even if they're not, what does it matter? I think I look presentable.

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    I'll take the tiny increased risk of a terrorist attack over the massive inconvenience this is causing so many people.


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