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    I just had my first experience with the body scanner a couple of weeks ago in Amsterdam, and I'll be honest, it wasn't terribly enjoyable. Nor was being randomly selected to go into the "holding room" and be patted down on Sunday at the MSP airport. I know it was just a random selection - the (female) TSA agent who selected me even called me "honey" when asking me to step aside (in a nice, motherly sort of way, not a sarcastic, demeaning or creepy way). But still, I felt a bit insulted to be randomly selected. But I can see that both are necessary.

    The body scan was fine except that they just told me to go in the cylinder and hold up my arms, but they never told me for how long or instructed me that I could leave, so I stood there standing with my arms up like an idiot for longer than necessary.

    It's uncomfortable but really I don't mind. We do need to do our best to keep air travel safe.

    Interestingly, the same people who feel their personal freedom is being violated by the body scanner are the often same people who are on board with the war on terror and harsher immigration laws as a result. Sometimes the same people who admit to feeling uncomfortable being on the plane with Muslims dressed in traditional clothing. You can't have it both ways - if you're scared of seeing Muslims on your plane, you should be thankful for the body scanner; if you want your own personal freedom, you should want all innocent people to have their personal freedom and not be subject to profiling or harsh laws formulated with the guilty in mind.

    EDIT: I better just go ahead and say that I'm not accusing any specific people on this forum of the attitude I describe in the paragraph above. It's mainly other people I've observed/overheard at airports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    Absent some extraordinary circumstance, I will fvcking HITCHHIKE before I ever fly under the current security policy.
    Yeah, I hear you. I just bought a ticket to fly to Montana for Xmas, and I'm not looking forward to the process. I'll probably opt for the scanner, but damn it, it sucks no matter what. Over $500 for the ticket and then this.

    Hey wait, the airport I'll be flying into doesn't have a scanner, and I don't think Seatac has one either, so I'll get groped both ways. I hope the guy looks presentableand isn't a total ass. fuck the TSA.

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    I don't give a shit what you wear as long as you don't blow the plane up.

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    ^^Well, exactly. That's as it should be! But there are people out there who are scared of being on planes with Muslims.
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    Ultimately, if some extremist wants to shut down air travel, all s/he has to do is walk into the terminal and blow themselves up. the TSA can't protect you from that.

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    ^^Well, exactly. That's as it should be! But there are people out there who are scared of being on planes with Muslims.
    Luckily they aren't in the ruling majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Luckily they aren't in the ruling majority.
    very true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle99 View Post
    You can't have it both ways - if you're scared of seeing Muslims on your plane, you should be thankful for the body scanner; if you want your own personal freedom, you should want all innocent people to have their personal freedom and not be subject to profiling or harsh laws formulated with the guilty in mind.
    Why cant I have it both ways? Come on, if I showed up to the Airport looking like a Radical Muslim or a Nazi Ok I guess I would be asking for it (just kidding - kinda). But if they are gonna grab my cock I don't want it done by some creepy dude. If it was a hot chick doing the grabbing I would prolly tolerate it.
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    Haha yeah, I do agree that being groped by the TSA is not very pleasant. I think it's more pleasant than having your plan hijacked, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle99 View Post
    Haha yeah, I do agree that being groped by the TSA is not very pleasant. I think it's more pleasant than having your plan hijacked, though.
    I do not and will not believe that we are reduced to a choice between relative safety from hijackings and getting groped by a rent-a-cop. I reject the premise.

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