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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Current ad running at the top of reason.com: "Atlas Shrugged: The Making of a Movie"...I think I'll pass
    How about reading an actual article? Like Jesse Walker's on the radio industry?


    I also can't wait to read "Job-Killing Environmentalists."
    Couldn't hurt. That was written by a guy from The American Conservative, which isn't my favorite publication, but there are some interesting statistics in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    How about reading an actual article? Like Jesse Walker's on the radio industry?




    Couldn't hurt. That was written by a guy from The American Conservative, which isn't my favorite publication, but there are some interesting statistics in there.
    I did read the article, and there's emotive language and ideological force put upon it, saying things like scientists are using new technology to support their "fantasy" of environmental damage. Yep, science is proving fantasies true every day. That's why it's called SCIENCE.

    Choosing not to spend my time reading Reason isn't entirely unlike choosing not to spend my time reading the Jehovah's Witness weekly publication The Watchtower.

    Even if I read more of it, it's not going to shift my ideology. Just so you know, one of the people that I've known in my life who I've strongly, strongly admired and left a lasting impression on me (in a mentor way, not a romantic way) told me that he identifies as libertarian, so it's not like I oppose the philosophy out of some personal butthurt.

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    P.S. Read your radio broadcasting article, and sure, I can agree with that - it's the part of libertarianism I agree with. In fact, one of my friends used that as a selling point to me (the way government can help certain businesses to dominate and push out competition) ...but the fact still remains that there are so many things about libertarianism that are offensive to me, and outright paranoid lunacy (reason.com, for instance, bombarding me and everyone else who passes through with GRAB THE GOVERNMENT BEFORE IT GRABS YOU! IMAGINE A WORLD WITH NO LIBERALS!...and what is up with the tee shirt models all having blond hair and blue eyes? Could they have a black or an Asian model too? At least a white woman with brown hair? Something that might actually help them look less like wealthy White Supremacists? Is it their little idea of a joke?)...that I can't handle it, bro.

    No, I don't want to imagine a world without public libraries and student loans. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    anarchism is inherently ridiculous.

    So is libertarianism (though I will admit I swallowed the natural rights tripe once upon a time -- I was young, and my Fi was out of control). I'm actually a Hoppean statist and producerist. A far-right populist, pretty much.

    And no, I'm not religious, but I do see church authority as very socially beneficial.
    I dont think anarchism or some sorts of libertarianism are ridiculous, they just havent and wont materialise into structures or culture beyond a certain scale. Or so I believe.

    Producerism is a new one on me, I thought it was perhaps a new name for distributivism like Chesterton and Belloc and other religiously motivated opponents of modernism favoured but it sounds more like Strasser's and other socialists who gravitated towards nationalist movements like Nazism proposed.

    Its more ridiculous than anarchism or libertarianism if you ask me because its history of betrayal and treachery is even greater than that of regular socialism. There's nothing wrong with admitting to being a cultural conservative and economic socialist though, Daniel Bell did that but I'm rereading his book to try and get clear in my own mind whether that's just a convenience or he sincerely believes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    During the New Deal and up til the late 60's-70ish, the Democrats were the more socially conservative party. Indeed much of the Left during this period was far more socially conservative. After all, "there's no sex in the Soviet Union."
    That's interesting because a UK commentator Hitchens in a book called The Cameron Dillusion and rerealised under a different title, the broken compass or something, bemoaned the new consensus and lack of genuine political differences in the UK but talked about how believers in genuine corporal and capital punishment/executions in the UK where actually on the left wing long after the right wing had given up on the idea, in particular communist sympathising members of the Labour Party many of whom bet national front candidates on law and order (authoritarian) platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    I'm not a conspiracy theorist. It is a fact however, that pretty much the entirety of the high school history curriculum in the average American school is fictional. For example, people did not believe the Earth was flat in Columbus's time (that having been debunked some-odd 2,000 years prior), slavery was not a contributing factor to the American Civil War, the Wright brothers were neither the first people to take flight nor the first to even film it, Edison came up with about as many inventions as I have in his lifetime, and so on and so forth.
    I dont know slavery was an issue, otherwise you'd not get books dating from that very time arguing that slavery was not an issue and was used for propaganda purposes by the union, similar the republicans and Lincoln seemed to be talking it up quite a bit too.

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    The thing about slavery and the US civil war is that if you ask some right wingers they'll tell you it had nothing to do with it and its a slander on the confederacy, ask some other right wingers, constitutionalists no less, and they'll tell you they want the same rights as the founding fathers, including the right to own slaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    The thing about slavery and the US civil war is that if you ask some right wingers they'll tell you it had nothing to do with it and its a slander on the confederacy, ask some other right wingers, constitutionalists no less, and they'll tell you they want the same rights as the founding fathers, including the right to own slaves.
    I am about to declare a moratorium on the word "rights." People will use it for ANY stupid/evil/unearned thing they want these days. "Right to own slaves?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    I am about to declare a moratorium on the word "rights." People will use it for ANY stupid/evil/unearned thing they want these days. "Right to own slaves?"
    Amen. Are libertarians going to quit it with "natural rights" thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    And the actual Reason gear ads clearly have a black man sporting one of their T-shirts.
    Right leaning organizations always use a token black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    P.S. Read your radio broadcasting article, and sure, I can agree with that - it's the part of libertarianism I agree with. In fact, one of my friends used that as a selling point to me (the way government can help certain businesses to dominate and push out competition) ...but the fact still remains that there are so many things about libertarianism that are offensive to me, and outright paranoid lunacy (reason.com, for instance, bombarding me and everyone else who passes through with GRAB THE GOVERNMENT BEFORE IT GRABS YOU! IMAGINE A WORLD WITH NO LIBERALS!...and what is up with the tee shirt models all having blond hair and blue eyes? Could they have a black or an Asian model too? At least a white woman with brown hair? Something that might actually help them look less like wealthy White Supremacists? Is it their little idea of a joke?)...that I can't handle it, bro.
    So you don't like the magazine because of their advertisers? That seems a little prejudiced yourself. And the actual Reason gear ads clearly have a black man sporting one of their T-shirts. I've seen the "Those Shirts" site, and I don't agree with them. "I'd Rather Be Waterboarding" is not good political commentary. Reason, of course, blasted waterboarding left and right. This whole line of criticism is weak sauce.


    No, I don't want to imagine a world without public libraries and student loans. Sorry.
    There would still be student loans and public libraries in the world, even if the government didn't finance them. Public libraries existed before the United States government did, and student loans existed before the government decided to extend that credit. It's this reflexively statist thinking I don't care for. These blankets statements are either uninformed or disingenuous.
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