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    On the voting side of the equation, there is no practicable way to institute a literacy or civics test without effectively discriminating and violating people's civil rights. Yes, it sucks that complete morons get to count equal to intelligent people in elections, but there is no alternative short of getting rid of elections, which would be an atrocity. The best we can do is limit the power of those elected so bad politicians don't wreck EVERYTHING.
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    Why are you relating intelligence to reasonable knowledge and understanding? It's like relating education to intelligence. Not always the case.

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    We don't need literacy tests. Academia just needs more political power, it's too little in comparison to corporate and special interest power. We'd have smarter public policy as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Why are you relating intelligence to reasonable knowledge and understanding? It's like relating education to intelligence. Not always the case.
    You make a good point, but intelligent is a little less subjective than "reasonable" (at least, outside of a courtroom) IMHO. I would hazard a guess that intelligence would be correlated to understanding of civics, although it clearly leads to differing opinions as to what policy should be. But I agree: intelligent people do things so stupid that one has to question their understanding and judgment. It happens all the time in government. Business, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    We don't need literacy tests. Academia just needs more political power, it's too little in comparison to corporate and special interest power. We'd have smarter public policy as a result.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Democracy with a limited franchise seemed to work somewhat well in the US in the past, but ultimately the system that's been demonstrated to be most efficient, stable, and best for those ruled is monarchy.
    What is the guarantee that the monarchy has superior people ruling? Would you support re-instituting political power to the royal family in Britain? They are genetically representative of a past successful monarchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Oh, a right-winger hates academics. That's original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Oh, a right-winger hates academics. That's original.
    Your reasoning is incredibly stupid. How many of the most ineffective, wasteful, or downright evil policies in America were called for by academics? Are you out of your mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    We don't need literacy tests. Academia just needs more political power, it's too little in comparison to corporate and special interest power. We'd have smarter public policy as a result.
    All I'm targeting are the apathetics in the general populace and the "only child left behind" politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Your reasoning is incredibly stupid. How many of the most ineffective, wasteful, or downright evil policies in America were called for by academics? Are you out of your mind?
    Would you give specific examples?
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