User Tag List

First 8910111220 Last

Results 91 to 100 of 321

  1. #91
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    So is your logic center apparently.

  2. #92
    Minister of Propagandhi ajblaise's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    INTP
    Posts
    7,917

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    Freedom of association is ridiculous? News to me. Letting people decide what goes into their bodies is ridiculous? Come on now. As for age of consent, I can honestly say I've never seen a libertarian argue for the complete abolition of age of consent laws everywhere. I would imagine a strict constitutionalist type would say "The Constitution doesn't say anything about AOC laws, so the federal government has no right. . ." and it remains (mostly) a state issue, anyway.
    They're all fringe positions. Just like abolishing Social Security, Medicare, NASA, and privatizing all the roads.

    Libertarian social, economic, and foreign policy, taken to philosophical purity, will always remain ridiculous.

  3. #93
    Tempbanned
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Enneagram
    8w9
    Posts
    14,031

    Default

    Libertarian social, economic, and foreign policy, taken to philosophical purity, will always remain ridiculous.
    Yawn.

    As will any political Ideology....

  4. #94
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Adasta View Post
    I really think a rigourous analysis of terms is necessary when speaking of American politics. It all seems so distorted to me that it's difficult to use any label at all. I mean, in a country where socialism and communism are conflated, the Democratic party is centrist at best and people balk at the thought of any sort of progressive taxation, isn't the American debate an extremely isolated and contorted one?
    We have pretty freaking progressive taxation here. 40% of the population pays no federal income tax at all, and they are talking about increasing the rates of those making upwards of $200-250K back up to 39.6%.


    pure_mercury's argument seems confused to me. I mean, the "right" to healthcare and the "right" to own slaves are completely different. Yes it's ridiculous to use the word right in all circumstances (which is your point), but it's also ridiculous to use these examples as premises for the argument you are propounding.
    Neither are rights. That is the point. What is ridiculous about using them as examples?
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  5. #95
    Minister of Propagandhi ajblaise's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    INTP
    Posts
    7,917

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Rights, properly speaking, don't exist. They are a social fiction.
    It seems obvious. And the only people with a halfway explanation is that they're God given. Concepts like rights only exist in the social and mental realm.

    The only thing that will protect you is yourself and whatever legal and civil rights you have.

  6. #96
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    They're all fringe positions. Just like abolishing Social Security, Medicare, NASA, and privatizing all the roads.
    Roads don't necessarily have to be privatized. But why Social Security, Medicare, or NASA? We didn't have any of those for the majority of the country's history.


    Libertarian social, economic, and foreign policy, taken to philosophical purity, will always remain ridiculous.
    "Out of the mainstream" does not equate to "ridiculous." Do you not care whether something is correct?
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  7. #97
    Order Now! pure_mercury's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    MBTI
    ESFJ
    Posts
    6,946

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    It seems obvious. And the only people with a halfway explanation is that they're God given. Concepts like rights only exist in the social and mental realm.
    False, and you know it.


    The only thing that will protect you is yourself and whatever legal and civil rights you have.
    "Rights" that depend on the government to grant them or not at will are not rights at all.
    Who wants to try a bottle of merc's "Extroversion Olive Oil?"

  8. #98
    Minister of Propagandhi ajblaise's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    INTP
    Posts
    7,917

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    Yawn.

    As will any political Ideology....
    Not center-right or center-left ideology. Because the philosophical purity of these ideologies is fairly moderate.

    But libertarianism, anarchism, fascism... ridiculous.

  9. #99
    Yeah, I can fly. Aleksei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/sp
    Socionics
    ILE Ti
    Posts
    3,644

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    False, and you know it.
    Really? So, what other logical explanation do you have for the existence of rights?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Teacher (Idyllic), ESE-IEI (Si-ESFj), SLue|I|, Sanguine-Melancholy
    Sage, True Neutral (Chaotic Good), Type III Anti-Hero
    Inventive > Artistic > Leisurely > Dramatic
    7w6 > 4w3 > 9w8, weakside sp/so

    Dark Worker (Sacrificing)
    Freewheeling Designer

    Hayekian Asshole


  10. #100
    Yeah, I can fly. Aleksei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    MBTI
    ENTJ
    Enneagram
    7w6 sx/sp
    Socionics
    ILE Ti
    Posts
    3,644

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pure_mercury View Post
    False, and you know it.
    Really? So, what other logical explanation do you have for the existence of rights?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Teacher (Idyllic), ESE-IEI (Si-ESFj), SLue|I|, Sanguine-Melancholy
    Sage, True Neutral (Chaotic Good), Type III Anti-Hero
    Inventive > Artistic > Leisurely > Dramatic
    7w6 > 4w3 > 9w8, weakside sp/so

    Dark Worker (Sacrificing)
    Freewheeling Designer

    Hayekian Asshole


Similar Threads

  1. Are you a democrat or republican?
    By highlander in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 57
    Last Post: 08-11-2017, 02:13 PM
  2. Key difference between Democrats and Republicans?
    By SearchingforPeace in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-09-2016, 11:53 AM
  3. How to Turn Republicans and Democrats Into Americans
    By DiscoBiscuit in forum Politics, History, and Current Events
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 04-12-2012, 12:28 PM
  4. Replies: 38
    Last Post: 06-15-2011, 10:24 PM
  5. Old whitey owns young negro
    By Fecal McAngry in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 71
    Last Post: 02-21-2010, 12:37 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO