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    Default What Did the Democrats do Strategically Wrong to lose their congressional advantage

    So the Democrats got spanked in this Nov. 2010 election. What did they do wrong? N

    ote I am not speaking ideologically rather pragmatically or more specificially, "What Did the Democrats do Strategically Wrong"
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    ^Thats a good point. Although I am ambivalent on Obamacare...strategically it seemed both cowardly and an implied admission of ineptitude to run away from the health care "win".I would also add.

    Not getting us out of Afghanistan.

    And not "fan fairing" the End of "Operation WTF is the WMDs" war in Iraq.

    Choosing to feel threatened or making fun/dismissing Tea Partiers instead of turning them against the GOP/Neocons by instigating a civil war within the party instead of being a binding mutual enemy/target for both sides.

    Gone on an anticoruption witch hunt targeting GOP/Neocons power players during the Bush admin. (wouldn't have to look hard)

    Spank more Banksters
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    "It's the ninth inning now, and Democrats are finally getting serious about hiding in the weeds at the slightest mention of last year's credit-card legislation, which put an end to predatory lending schemes that are universally considered repugnant," Carville said. "Now that's smart politics, right there. The chips may be down, but they're still finding a way to curl up like a bunch of pathetic little hedgehogs and piss all over themselves the moment any sort of challenge is mounted."



    This reminds me of when John Kerry refused to play hard ball with his opponents in the 2004 presidential campaigns.

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    My son said they're always going to lose because they've never managed to capitalize on people fears like Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbone View Post
    My son said they're always going to lose because they've never managed to capitalize on people fears like Republicans.
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    "This reminds me of when John Kerry refused to play hard ball with his opponents in the 2004 presidential campaigns.


    Their biggest fear mongering attack by the democrats were insinuations a person was not "politically correct" which lost its bite to the point of Republicans wearing the accusation like a badge of honor.

    Also Democrats never seem to have the same party unity as Republicans. They are their own worst enemy.
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    They allowed corporate interests to run the show, just as every previous administration since Carter's had done.

    Consequently, they passed legislation to bail out investment banks at the expense of the taxpayer. They also repeatedly looked the other way while these same banks (and others besides) systematically broke long-standing laws that would have prevented the housing bubble from happening in the first place, and would have greatly reduced the pain and duration of the recovery in the second.

    They repeatedly told the country that the economy's getting better when people can just look around them and see with their own eyes that it's not.

    I'm not siding with the Republicans here. Republicans own their fair share of blame for the above acts... some of them happened during the last Bush administration. Still, I think that's the best explanation for yesterday's election results.

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    They focused too much on policy and not enough on public relations, which you can argue is a good thing, even if it hurt Dems in the midterms. They did good reform on credit cards, student loans, health care, the consumer protection agency, Wall Street reform, lobbying reform.... arguably the most productive first 2 years since FDR or Johnson. But for example, when Bush did his tax cuts, he sent out a giant mailer saying he was the best President ever giving you this, and did it in a lump sum, which has less of a stimulative effect. But when Obama did his huge middle class tax cuts, he didn't make a gimmick out of it, and did it incrementally, which is better for stimulating the economy, but no one noticed it.

    If unemployment was just 4 percent lower, and if he didn't get handed a giant recession, the Dems would have kept the House today, and instead of the economy being the major issue, it would the 2 wars, which no one cares about any more because of the economy. Had Obama got the economy Clinton handed Bush, he'd have it made.

    It's so easy to be against the (Bush) bailouts and other rescue actions taken, but very few people would have accepted a depression and no government action, over a recession with government action. When markets crash bad, we're all Keynesian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamtar View Post


    Their biggest fear mongering attack by the democrats were insinuations a person was not "politically correct" which lost its bite to the point of Republicans wearing the accusation like a badge of honor.

    Also Democrats never seem to have the same party unity as Republicans. They are their own worst enemy.
    *smile* My response to him was, "All Republicans have a little Atwater in them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    When markets crash bad, we're all Keynesian.
    Not quite all, but point taken.

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