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    Well there goes that, thanks to Puritans and useless "young voters".



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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Well there goes that, thanks to Puritans and useless "young voters".
    It'll happen eventually. More old people need to die first. They're the ones holding back progress.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    It'll happen eventually. More old people need to die first. They're the ones holding back progress.
    Aren't you assuming that young people are going to retain their current values? Some young people clearly value convention. What matters most is how you can convince the majority of a generation that marijuana is conventional. Even though Prop 19 didn't pass, it still shows that the idea of legalization is becoming more feasible in the eyes of the public. The stigma around the drug is dropping, but there are still crusaders of the "War on Drugs" out there. Usually, their arguments are that marijuana is a "gateway" drug, and that marijuana causes crime. The same arguments could be inversed, of course. If marijuana was legal, then legitimate retailing business would keep it separate from illegal drugs in the same way that liquor retailers do now. Therefore, marijuana would have less potential to become a gateway drug. And, of course, if marijuana was legal, then there wouldn't be as much violence surrounding the substance. Furthermore, legalization would take power away from crime lords and illegal drug cartels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    Aren't you assuming that young people are going to retain their current values? Some young people clearly value convention. What matters most is how you can convince the majority of a generation that marijuana is conventional. Even though Prop 19 didn't pass, it still shows that the idea of legalization is becoming more feasible in the eyes of the public. The stigma around the drug is dropping, but there are still crusaders of the "War on Drugs" out there. Usually, their arguments are that marijuana is a "gateway" drug, and that marijuana causes crime. The same arguments could be inversed, of course. If marijuana was legal, then legitimate retailing business would keep it separate from illegal drugs in the same way that liquor retailers do now. Therefore, marijuana would have less potential to become a gateway drug. And, of course, if marijuana was legal, then there wouldn't be as much violence surrounding the substance. Furthermore, legalization would take power away from crime lords and illegal drug cartels.
    But what about REEFER MADNESS ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    But what about REEFER MADNESS ?

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    I'm assuming that younger generations will be more open to the idea of legalization because they have access to more information than older generations.
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Generations get progressively more liberal, and even when the people in those generations age, they still become more liberal (contrary to popular belief).

    Busting Myth, People Turn More Liberal With Age - LiveScience

    So as soon as these baby boomers die off.... it's party time. Set your clocks.

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    What I'd like to know is when will NC say yes to medicinal weed? I'm surprised that only 14 states have passed this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Tater View Post
    Do enlighten me, sponge.
    Well, it would be a small step toward the greater decriminalization of drugs. And generally, you have to start with those kinds of steps to change how things are done in society.

    And why is that greater goal important? I've mentioned it elsewhere in drug threads. Decriminalized drugs means: much weaker organized crime/much less drug violence, safer and cleaner drugs via legitimate oversight, more people willing to get help with drug problems, an enormous amount of government resources saved, the opportunity to profit by taxing legal drugs!

    The difference would be profound.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Generations get progressively more liberal, and even when the people in those generations age, they still become more liberal (contrary to popular belief).

    Busting Myth, People Turn More Liberal With Age - LiveScience

    So as soon as these baby boomers die off.... it's party time. Set your clocks.
    This is assuming that we are talking about a constant trend applicable to the great majority of the USA. I worry that may not be the case.
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