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    Quote Originally Posted by 93JC View Post
    I said "the last time the US invaded Canada they got their asses kicked," not "Canada kicked the USA's ass".
    True, but you have to take into account the various difference between then and now, especially when talking about the fighting abilities of the American military.

    In any case:
    The U.S. Army had done poorly, on the whole, in several attempts to invade Canada, and the Canadians had shown that they would fight bravely to defend their country. But the British did not doubt that the thinly populated territory would be vulnerable in a third war. "We cannot keep Canada if the Americans declare war against us again," Admiral Sir David Milne wrote to a correspondent in 1817.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812#Canadian
    This was why the British were rather uneasy not to provoke the US too much during the American Civil War, partially out of concern about what America would do to Canada - and with much of its attention to more Continental affairs.

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    I propose we allow Quebec to become a sovereign nation. Any Anglo Canadians who don't like being annexed will be allowed to move to Montreal.

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    No, we could just invade Quebec first and then we'd be greeted as liberators!
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge

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    Weird how you guys seem to think the situation is Quebec frantically trying to run away and the rest of us desperately grabbing after them. I'm not sure either one is true (extremely vocal minorities aside). I guess that must be the stereotype, though.
    -end of thread-

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    But really..

    There's a reason Canadians are so polite.

    With USA right underneath us we have to stay on our toes. >__>
    Sure, it's American as apple pie, and Canadian as possible under the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    Because this board is always going on and on about the decay of the US, blah blah blah, let's have something fun. The Canadian/American war -- how would it play out? Who would win?
    Richard Simmons says that Canada can't take what it dishes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tawanda View Post
    USA would kick ass.
    Canada has already lost her freedom under the Monroe Doctrine of the USA, along with Central and South America.

    Fortunately Australia is not subject to the Monroe Doctrine and so we still maintain our freedom under the Crown.

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    I think the Americans should annex Canada. I want to move somewhere warm.

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    Canada would win.

    The US invasion force would meet little or no resistance but would be drawn into an expensive and unsustainable occupation, which would require a long standing commitment of forces which could not be deployed elsewhere in the world to other theatres of conflict, in the mean time US taxpayer enmity would be on the rise for having to pay for the occupation and very possibly for other expenses one time shouldered by the native Canadian population but which have now become budgetry commitments for the US.

    In the mean time Canadian and British agents will have increased other sorts of enmity and agitation within the US by US citizens themselves, destablising the state, either through pressure from neo-secessionists, libertarian bombers such as those responsible for the Ocklahoma City bombing and other "home grown threats", such as organised or barely organised crime and black markets, via supplying inner city gangs with drugs, weapons or means of counterfeiting to undermine the US currency, action in Mexico to encourage further illegal immigration around southern borders and also action in southern states vulnerable to it to encourage latinisation and political moves towards secession and joining of a greater Latin entity. None of those things actually have to be viable to drain away time, money and resources and they are the stuff of dirty tactics and proxy battles which power brokers and king maker states engage in all the time.

    They're also the tactics with the UK are famous for in the developing world, the Russians also considered the UK's spies and spycatchers to be more adept than the US, despite the US having much more massive budgets, the routine explusions of diplomats between Russia and UK, the banning of British exchange schemes and even some BBC broadcasting in Russia is all still a steady fixture, along with fly overs by Russian bombers (which conspiracy theorists suggest is responsible for cloud seeding with silver iodine and heavy rain, the poisoning of Russian exiles in the UK wasnt just a tactic during the Cold War and the use of irradiated water was supposed to be sending a message, "we could make it rain this sort of water").

    The Israelis are the only nation I'd suspect could and would fight dirtier or meaner than the UK in spy games.

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    A valid question.
    When you drive into Canada/US, do you notice when you cross the border?
    Ii Scandinavia, or Central Europe, you do not. It was even more so before EU.

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